Hello everybody,
When you proceed with The 'Manual' enrolment method inside a course, You have access to the settings
(Of course I searched the FAQ, The manual and this forum without success before posting this question)
All the best,
Thierry
Hi,
Yes you can achieve this, only you have to change the way you syn or add users of cohort. First you have to remove the cohort syn from the enrollment method for now as you have synced it.
So go to Course administration> Enrollment method> Delete the synced cohort
Now go to Course administration>Participants (if using 3.4)> click on Enrol users button
pop-up will open where you can find Select cohort. From their select the cohort you need and set the duration and other option you want for it.
See the screenshot of the pop-up below
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I don't see that functionality because we are still on Moodle 3.1.
Though, with your way, are you keeping the synchronisation with the cohort? (Meaning that changing members of the cohort afterwards will update the list of enrolled participants?)
Or, on the contrary, your process makes a one-time individual enrolment only for the users at that moment in the cohort?
All the best,
Thierry
I found the process you were explaining in the documentation of 3.4 (https://docs.moodle.org/34/en/Participants) but they are not clear if it will be synchronised...
Th
Yes it will be synchronized, but with my way it will be add the user from the cohort with the way of manual enrollment. The user will remain in the cohort but in this way you can be able to edit them as you edit the user when they are enrolled via manual enrollment process
S. kavita,
I believe you are wrong here. Any users added to the cohort after manually adding a cohort to the course will not be synced with the course. Cohort sync is the only way to achieve this.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way of setting an enrollment period for cohort sync at the moment. I think you'd have to go in and manually enable/disable it at a given date.
Catherine
No I don't think so. When we manually add cohort into a course then users are added and can be edited as we do in Manual enrollment.
What do you mean by Syn? We use Cohort to add bunch of users at a time in different course efficiently.
So when we add cohort manually then it does not remove users from the cohort.
As per the requirement, I think this is the way we can keep cohort and use it as Manual enrollment as well it does not affect any of the settings.
If a cohort is synchronised to a course, it means that if I add users to the cohort, they are added automatically to the course it is synced with. Similarly, if I remove a user from a cohort, they are automatically removed from the course or courses that the cohort is synced with.
Say I have a cohort called First Year Maths 2018 that contains 20 students. I sync that cohort with the course pages that First Year Maths students need access to: "Basic Calculus", "Basic Trigonometry" and "Basic Algebra". This gives those 20 students access to those course pages.
However, 1 student drops out and switches to First Year Science instead, and 2 latecomers join the course. If I remove the drop out student from the First Year Maths 2018 cohort, she no longer has access to those 3 course pages. If I add the 2 latecomers to First Year Maths 2018, they immediately have access to "Basic Calculus", "Basic Trigonometry" and "Basic Algebra".
If I add the cohort in the way you describe above, by just adding the cohort members to my course pages rather than syncing them, the same 20 students will have access to the 3 course pages. The latecomers will not haven been added, and the student who switched to Science will still have access. I will have to go in to each course page individually and remove the dropout, and add the 2 remaining students. So in answer to Th Malta's question, this method doesn't synchronise the cohorts - that's not to say it isn't a valid way to enroll your students of course!
I agreed with what you have described for the cohort which is default behavior of it. But as per the requirement of this discussion this will not be the solution.
This is the alternate behavior of the cohort and can be used for the requirement mentioned above.
Thank you Catherine, thank you "C Behan" for your explanations.
So from your explanations it appears that Participants>Enroll Users> Select cohort will not create an instance of cohort synchronisation : the cohort selected with that process won't appear in Course administration > Users > enrolment methods as a synchronised cohorts, but the current users of that cohort will appear in manual enrolments.
I cannot test myself, I don't have moodle 3.4
As C Behan guessed, we want to keep the advantage of the cohort synchronisation. Hence my question: simply adding to the enrolment method cohort synchronisation the possibility set visible to "no" and then set a date when it will be changed to "yes".
Have a nice day,
Thierry
That's it Thierry - adding members of a cohort in the way you describe will only add the members of the cohort at that particular time, and you can specify an enrollment period if you wish, it doesn't sync them. BTW - that's not just in 3.4 but goes way back.
And enrol period for a cohort sync is not available unfortunately, though it would be very useful!
Hi!
One more thing: if you're interested on getting this feature, you can vote this issue or work on it (if you're able!): https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-53236
Kind regards.
I also needed that for a client and this issue is about 2 years old. I managed to get this coded from one of my developers and now looking how I can contribute the code to moodle repository so everybody can get benefit from it. May be someone can help
Hello Sufyan Khan,
I'm also interested in this feature, have you tried getting your dev to work on https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-53236 ?
