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Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread

 
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Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Fordson 1.6.0 introduces three new style presets: Corporate Learner, University Learner, and Dearborn Public Schools.  I also wrote up some documentation for the theme and "recommended settings" for each individual preset so that you can get the best style results.

New Style Presets

Corporate Learner:  Very simple, no background image preset. Most colors are tied to 2 settings: Brand Primary and Body Background Colour. Changing these two colors will drastically alter the look of the page. Designed to be distraction free with minimal color. This preset gives you all the features of Fordson with the simplicity of the Boost theme.

University Learner:  This new preset is a beautiful full-screen design with a university in mind. You can get interesting results by adjusting the Header Image Height to minimize or make larger the header image. Minimal use of color makes customization a breeze. Pick the Brand Primary and away you go.  Course activities are listed in a styled box that helps the student focus on tasks.

Dearborn Public Schools: This is our namesake preset that was going to be kept internal.  We shared it anyways because I really like it.  Custom Header Images are used only on the main course page. Once in an course activity the image is hidden and content is up at the very top of the page.  This maximizes learning screen space without compromising style and personalized courses for teachers.  It is recommended that you use the slideshow option for the homepage to add a visual element.  This is also a full-width preset which also has unique styling for course topic headings, course activity lists, quizzes, and other elements.  Smooth and stylish with minimal color.

Get the most out of Fordson.  Check out the theme Documentation:  View the documentation 

If you have questions or issues with Fordson 1.6.0 or newer please post here.  This is the discussion thread linked to the plugin page.  

The screenshot is an example of the Dearborn Public Schools preset.


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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In the Fordson 1.6.1 release we will be introducing a new feature that is just amazing and was first seen in the Moove theme.  We absolutely love the way the Moove theme displays a progress bar for each topic when a course is set to show one topic per page.  

We do a lot of training and this is a feature that allows a learner to quickly see what topics require their attention in a course.  The Moove theme puts these topic sections into 2 columns where we do not with Fordson.  With Fordson we keep it true to Boost core with a single column and only add in the progress display.  We also show the number of activities in each topic as well as the count of completed activities.

I created a short video to showcase some of the new features coming in future 1.6.0 releases as well as the new presets.  Our namesake Dearborn Public Schools preset will most likely become the default in a future release.  

Watch the video:



 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Version 1.6.1 has been released.  In this version we made the Dearborn Public Schools preset the default. 

VERSION 1.6.1 PRESETS - In this release we changed our default preset to be Dearborn Public Schools. We renamed the previously named default presets to:

  1. default.scss  =  K-12.scss
  2. default_x   =  K-12 Vertical Block TItle
  3. default fullscreen header image  =  K-12 Fullscreen Header Image

Basically the previous presets named default were changed to "K-12". 

A new default background image was also included in this release. 

Topic summary page now includes a Progress bar if using course completion for students.  Show one topic per page is the setting to see this. 

 
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Version 1.6.3 now includes Favicon support.  From the Fordson Admin settings you can upload a favicon for the site.

 
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broken login
 

It does not seem to be a problem with the fordson theme.

It also happens in 'fordson' theme based on the boost theme.

It is a symptom after DB repair a while ago.

Does anyone know a solution?

Below are screenshots and debug messages.

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The course title box overlaps on mobile.

The course title box overlaps on mobile.


Landscape grows strangely on desktop login.Landscape grows strangely on desktop login.


  • line 364 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->add_node()
  • line 353 of /theme/fordson/lib/fordson_lib.php: call to navigation_node->add()
  • line 297 of /theme/fordson/lib/fordson_lib.php: call to fordson_navigation_custom_menu_item()
  • line 57 of /theme/fordson/layout/columns2.php: call to fordson_local_navigation_extend_navigation()
  • line 1261 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to include()
  • line 1191 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to core_renderer->render_page_layout()
  • line 116 of /admin/settings.php: call to core_renderer->header()
Navigation node intersect: Adding a node that already exists 9
  • line 889 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to debugging()
  • line 388 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node_collection->add()
  • line 364 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->add_node()
  • line 353 of /theme/fordson/lib/fordson_lib.php: call to navigation_node->add()
  • line 297 of /theme/fordson/lib/fordson_lib.php: call to fordson_navigation_custom_menu_item()
  • line 57 of /theme/fordson/layout/columns2.php: call to fordson_local_navigation_extend_navigation()
  • line 1261 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to include()
  • line 1191 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to core_renderer->render_page_layout()
  • line 116 of /admin/settings.php: call to core_renderer->header()
Navigation node intersect: Adding a node that already exists 8
  • line 889 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to debugging()
  • line 442 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node_collection->add()
  • line 445 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->build_flat_navigation_list()
  • line 3884 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->build_flat_navigation_list()
  • line 771 of /lib/pagelib.php: call to flat_navigation->initialise()
  • line 820 of /lib/pagelib.php: call to moodle_page->magic_get_flatnav()
  • line 65 of /theme/fordson/layout/columns2.php: call to moodle_page->__get()
  • line 1261 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to include()
  • line 1191 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to core_renderer->render_page_layout()
  • line 116 of /admin/settings.php: call to core_renderer->header()
Navigation node intersect: Adding a node that already exists 9
  • line 889 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to debugging()
  • line 442 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node_collection->add()
  • line 445 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->build_flat_navigation_list()
  • line 3884 of /lib/navigationlib.php: call to navigation_node->build_flat_navigation_list()
  • line 771 of /lib/pagelib.php: call to flat_navigation->initialise()
  • line 820 of /lib/pagelib.php: call to moodle_page->magic_get_flatnav()
  • line 65 of /theme/fordson/layout/columns2.php: call to moodle_page->__get()
  • line 1261 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to include()
  • line 1191 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to core_renderer->render_page_layout()
  • line 116 of /admin/settings.php: call to core_renderer->header()

 
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Re: broken login
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Hopefully someone else might know how to fix this.  I cannot get my site to do this.

 
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Re: broken login
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Can you post the error messages that occur when you are not using Fordson - switch to Boost for example...what version of Moodle?

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Hi Chris

Thank you for your wonderful work.

I have a doubt, I believe that simple for you. Using the E-learner scss preset, how to leave only the course header image, only in the course area, and not in the other moodle site sessions?

Sérgio

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Sergio,

The elearner preset uses images in course summary files that are used as full-screen backgrounds.  If you do not want to allow teachers to customize their course using course summary files then you can turn this feature off for the entire site.  Once you turn this off you can use a single image for every course on your site.

Go to Appearance > Fordson > Custom Image Settings and uncheck "Show Course Images".  Then you can upload a Default Header Image and it will be used across the entire site.


Chris


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Sorry Chris, I made a mistake on the preset. What I'm using is Corporate Learner.

I want to keep the summary image only for the courses. And remove the banner and margin-top in every session of the site.

Something like:

div # learningcontent2 {

     position: relative;

    / * margin-top: $ headerimagepadding; * /

But if I apply it, I lose the images of the courses.


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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I am not so sure this is corporate learner.   It looks like you've made some changes.  

Corporate learner doesn't use header images.  

Is it possible you are using this preset with another theme?

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Yes, excuses ... again. I cleared the cache.

I'm working from preset University learner :/

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Hi Chris

Thank you for awesome theme.

We use Fordson theme with Corporate Learner preset on Moodle 3.4+. In Content Areas Frontpage Authenticated User and Frontpage Visitor textboxes we have some text with small site logo image at the end. At fresh instalation text and image were shown ok, but after changing logo image there is only broken link for that image shown. In editor images are shown correctly. Can we use pictures in this textboxes or are we limited to text only?



 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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You can use images but they must be hosted outside of moodle in this particular textbox.  You can always add the images in  a folder on your server and use them with the text editor where it asks for an image url.

This particular textbox will not allow you to use uploaded image files in the atto editor.  

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Chris, thanks. It works fine now.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

HI Chris

Thank you so much for your work on the Fordson Theme - awesome.

I have one small issue with the questions not displaying correctly in the quizzes.  Some of the questions I have created are not displayed within the quiz area - see the attachment.


My moodle version is 3.2.1+, we updated to version 3.3.4 ... but had to roll this back as we lost a lot of functionality.  So any ideas how to fix this on 3.2.1+.  

I have altered the styles.css as you mentioned in another thread ... 

@media screen and (min-width: 992px) {

#page.container-fluid {

    padding: 0 2rem !important;

}


Regards

Sue

Question beyond quiz area

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Hello Sue,

From the image it seems your question uses tables.  Tables are not responsive and eventually they cannot adapt any smaller because of the cell contents. This seems to be what you are experiencing.  The table spills out of the question container.

Moodle 3.2 was the very early development of our Fordson theme.  Moodle 3.3 is now locked and all development is on 3.4 with an eye on 3.5 very soon.  

If you upgrade Moodle be sure to upgrade the theme as well. I recommend the latest version for 3.2, 3.3, or 3.4.

Our latest version 1.7 for Moodle 3.4 has some amazing features to streamline navigation and the edit button is now always visible and when pressed will return you to the same location on the page. Teachers will love this!

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

HI Chris

Thanks for getting back to me ... and yes that makes perfect sense.  Just wish it was not the case of course.

Once again thanks for your theme it is awesome!

Cheers

Sue

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Hi Sue,

This may seem like a silly question, but the code you posted above is missing the end brace...

@media screen and (min-width: 992px) {
#page.container-fluid {
padding: 0 2rem !important;
}
} <-- THIS ONE

Which if you missed it off then it would not work. Which in itself could be aggravating the problem!!!

That said I do not think that particular @media style would fix the problem you have there.

Is the question you posted a view of an Invoice as in an image jpg file or similar?  Or part of a spreadsheet?

Just curious really because I have not come across anything of that type before. Possible because I am not a teacher.  Can you explain how such a Quiz can be created to look like that?

If I know how it is created then I may be able to fathom a way round the problem you have on that page.

Cheers

Mary

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

HI Mary

Thank you yes it does have the closing bracket in the code in the css file - just missed it when copying ... 

I created the question with a table in it - and Chris has replied that the table is non-responsive to the quiz container - which explains why it is going over the quiz area.  

Is this enough information for you to have a look at it?

Thank you so much.

Regards


Sue


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Hi Sue, 

In a way it explains the reason that the table is too big for the question area, however you can restrict the width of the table if you use percentages in the styling, so that columns and overall table width and height only take up the space allotted to them.

Web pages were originally built using table structures. Its pretty easy to do when you know how, but it is a time consuming thing to do. 

Hope this helps?

Mary

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 
Hi,

How to solve this?

Using Moodle 3.4.1 / Fordon 1.7

Image is 1280px x 800px.

Ricardo

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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That looks like you are using the custom login page.  Please fill out the forms on the page for the custom login page.  There are 4 icon marketing spots and up to 3 text and image boxes.  You should complete those forms in order to fill the space between the top of the page and the footer.  Otherwise do not use the Custom Login Page.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

I am using Moodle 3.3.3 and Fordson v1.6.6


My issue at the moment is that my quiz questions aren't displaying correctly in the Fordson theme. For some reason the paragraph containing the answer boxes is wrapping itself down the page. This is not the case in other themes. (Except boost that I just tried out of interest).

How can this be easily rectified, it is very puzzling and frustrating for students.

Please see images below.


Thanks in Advance.

Craig.

html code of the question:

(generated by the atto editor in a calculated question)


<p>Calculate the surface area of the cone below, given</p>

<p>q = {col1} cm, &amp;<br>k = {cor1} cm.</p>

<p><img src="http://web3.albionpk-h.schools.nsw.edu.au/moodle/draftfile.php/16/user/draft/746113367/Cone1.PNG" alt="jhv" width="88" height="140"></p>

<p>Surface area = __________ cm<sup>2</sup> (1 d.p.)</p>


Question as shown in Fordson (and Boost)


Question shown correctly in clean and most other themes:



 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Boost has styling that puts this on the separate line.  It's css in the core of Boost I believe.  Fordson and any other Boost-based theme would most likely inherit this setting.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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I thought that this had been fixed in later versions...maybe I just saw someone wishing it had been fixed..!

What version of Moodle?

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Moodle 3.3.3  3.3.3+ (Build: 20171208)

Fordson 1.6.6 2017121900


Craig

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Hi Chris,

do you know if there are plans to fix this in Boost so that it filters down through the various child themes?


Thanks,

Craig

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Craig,

Send me an export of the question as moodle xml and I will take a look and see if I can get you code to fix it.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Here you are Chris. Any help is appreciated.


I have hundreds of questions that this impacts, essentially anything in the calculated questions with text followed by the answer box (which is generated by the underscores) then text after it.


If the issue originates in Boost, will fixing it there rectify the problem in Fordson?


Thanks,

Craig.

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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Craig,

Try adding this to the custom SCSS box at the bottom of the Colours page of Fordson.


.formulation input[type="text"], .formulation select {

    display: inline-block;

}


As with any of this there might be unintended consequences where it might make something else look funny.  Try it and we will see.  This fixes the question in my test site.


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Thanks Chris,


that's much better. If this is fixed in a future release of the theme, will i need to delete that code from the settings to avoid a conflict?


Craig.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Craig,

I don't think you will need to delete it unless it causes a problem.  

Basically this is part of how Boost displays that input box and Fordson will inherit any changes in Boost.


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Chris,

First and foremost, thank you to you and your team for the awesome theme!

Quick question for you that might be of help to others, as well.  Is there a reason that the icon navigation requires a user to not be a guest and logged in (https://github.com/dbnschools/moodle-theme_fordson/blob/moodle33/classes/output/core_renderer.php#L466)?  I am considering removing that requirement for a site I work on so visitors can see the navigation before logging in, but I wanted to make sure there were no security (or other) issues that I was not thinking of.

Thanks, in advance, for your response!

-Jesse

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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I can't remember why we did it this way but it shouldn't be a problem to remove that check.  

Our philosophy is the homepage is where a user logs in because we want to know who you are.  Generally we force all people to login first before getting access to anything.  We view Moodle as an extension of the classroom and we don't let strangers in the classroom, so same applies to Moodle.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Chris,


Thanks for the prompt reply!  I think its a great philosophy that fits most education institutions and I think that is why I am seeing this for the first time.  In this case, the client I am working with is a non-profit that is going to use the Moodle homepage to replace their current site that is built in a wiki with the hopes of drawing them into the site and getting them to take classes.  Having a consistent nav will hopefully help them out!  It might be worth considering a check box to the settings to show to all or only to logged in users?  Just a thought.

For anyone who stumbles across this wondering how to make this work, change the following lines in classes/output/core_renderer.php

        $hasnav1icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav1icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav1icon;
        $hasnav2icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav2icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav2icon;
        $hasnav3icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav3icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav3icon;
        $hasnav4icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav4icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav4icon;
        $hasnav5icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav5icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav5icon;
        $hasnav6icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav6icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav6icon;
        $hasnav7icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav7icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav7icon;
        $hasnav8icon = (empty($PAGE->theme->settings->nav8icon && isloggedin() && !isguestuser())) ? false : $PAGE->theme->settings->nav8icon;
       

to the following:


        $hasnav1icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav1icon;
        $hasnav2icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav2icon;
        $hasnav3icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav3icon;
        $hasnav4icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav4icon;
        $hasnav5icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav5icon;
        $hasnav6icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav6icon;
        $hasnav7icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav7icon;
        $hasnav8icon = $PAGE->theme->settings->nav8icon;
       

And it should work great.  Thanks, again, for the awesome theme!

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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The other thing to consider is that you might want those buttons to only appear when logged in so that the user knows they are actually logged in.  Sometimes a change in scenery allows the user to realize they are logged in.  

Also, depending on what you put as links in the buttons it may require the user to be logged in.  That is what we do, so I didn't quite consider options outside of that.  

There are custom textboxes for logged in users and logged out users too.  

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Hi Chris, 

Amazing theme! so many features whuich I hope to introduce to our users... 

Im trying to recreate the look of one of the course screenshots in your documentation with no joy, guessing the version has surpassed that default 'preset'? 

here's what im going for... but would also like to add labels to the cog and maybe add a button which links straight to the course summary file drop zone for course image change?

would really like to contribute and perhaps develop a 'preset' based on our UI research.

but as a starting point - how do I get back to this look? Love how the title etc float over the image, increasing view of the course content.

Fordson floating course header - less space taken up.


Please see my other thread - new to the Boost scene after theming with Aardvark for 7 years, little bit rusty! https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=368857#p1487674 

Cheers.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Hello Chris,

I believe this was during the Moodle 3.2 versions of Fordson.  Do not install that on anything other than Moodle 3.2.   Unfortunately feedback from our teachers and other considerations took us in a different direction.  We felt the screen area taken up by the photo was too much with little to no real benefit for the student. 

As for editing what appears in the cog you'd need to dive into overwriting core Moodle functions.  We decided against that and went with building the Modal window for course management.  This you can manipulate and add your own links if you can write code.  We didn't care for how the current course edit cog is organized so we laid things out in a logical order and built this into our theme.

Our thinking and goal is to have all the links for the users in the top navigation bar.  Starting from the left the site title takes you to the homepage.  To the right of that is the nav drawer toggle followed by course management and the edit button.  All user centric items are to the right of the top nav bar.  

This means you have all the tools for manipulating and managing your course and profile in the top bar and can focus completely on learning below.  This trains the user to look to the top nav bar which is much easier than all the various places moodle currently hides links and navigational elements.  No more scrolling to the top just to turn editing on and no more scrolling to the top just to access course management links.


The Moodle 3.4 & 3.5 Fordson theme does have several key enhancements for usability.

  • The teacher dashboard now appears as a modal window and you can access it from anywhere in the course.
  • Turn editing on is always in view and will return the user to where ever they clicked the button.  
  • 9 uniquely styled presets that meet a variety of needs and looks
  • Control over Activity Chooser to select "top activities" and control the ordering.  You can even hide activities.

I am monitoring and looking for cues from Moodle on where they plan on taking Boost core and watching discussions on new navigation schemes they are developing.  We want to stay as close to core as possible but offer some unique features as well.  They are currently prototyping and gathering ideas on how to better display and organize navigation.  

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Thanks Chris, 

always good to know the context and thinking behind something, and totally get it, just think its a massive jump at the minute for our users, although that's no bad thing as long as its intuitive!

I'm in the process of getting some more feedback on what users (staff and students) think of Boost with a few changes compared to our old BS2 Aardvark Child in 3.0.

are there any threads/ tracker items/ groups we can be part of to push UI improvements in Moodle and Moodle Core?

 
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Re: Menus with 2nd children
 

We have an issue where Fordson does not display menus with 2 child links (**). Example:

Parent Item
  -child
     -child**
  -child
     -child**

Is there a solution for this?

 
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To clarify, the issue lies with the 'child of a child'.  For some reason the child of a child does not show.

 
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Does this work in Boost?

From memory I think there was something about BS4 not supporting multiple levels of drop downs - but I could be wrong in that and I'm on a mobile and travelling for a meeting at the moment, so can't check, sorry.

 
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Re: Menus with 2nd children
 

Wow - how did I miss that!?

Yes!  You are correct - BOOST does not handle 2nd children.  However, premium themes like Lamda do!

Ugh!  What can be done?

 
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Re: Menus with 2nd children
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I believe that Lamda is an old port of the Essential theme, so not really a case of 'premium themes' being the solution but rather the underlying framework as the menu system here is a part of that.  So difference between Bootstrap 2.3.2 and 4 alpha 4.

 
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Re: Menus with 2nd children
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As Gareth says, this isn't 'premium' v 'free' its Bootstrap2 (Lambda/Clean/More/Essential/Adaptable/Flexibase/etc) v Bootstrap4 (Boost/Fordson/Waxed/etc) - I was going to say 'old v new' but Gareth has only just released another version of Essential, so there's no way I could class that as 'old' :D

 
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Re: Menus with 2nd children
 

We had the same problem with Fordson. We like the theme, so are living with linear dropdown custom menu's, rather than the flyouts that are much more compact and efficient.


Craig.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Is there a quick way to move 'Hidden From Students'?  My teachers are loving the theme but complaining about the Moodle Scroll of Death because 'Hidden From Students' keeps is forcing each activity to double its original height...  I know this isn't directly a Fordson issue, but thought people here might have a CSS solution or perhaps even a better idea.  See attached for specifics.


 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
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Try adding this to additional css:

.section .activity .availabilityinfo, .section .activity .contentafterlink {
margin-left0px;
floatright;
}
It only works on screens that are wide enough - smaller screens it will drop below again.
 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Hi @Emma,

Thanks, this was my solition as well, though I changed it slightly:

.section .activity .availabilityinfo { float:right; margin-top: .3em !important; }

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread - Next/Previous Activity - Jump-To Activity
 

Hello!

Since our district updated to Moodle 3.4, I need to redo my modified Fordson theme (which 3.4 broke).  Because of the gamification features I have included in my course, I need to remove the ability to move to the previous/next activity from within the activities themselves.  (I had students see that and they were able to access the "abandoned" gamification features by clicking those links as opposed to discovering the Easter eggs within their assignments. 

In Chrome's developer's panel, I was able to find that the area is related to <div class="m-t-2 m-b-1">, but when I search throughout Fordson (with Netbeans), I can't find that class to edit/remove from the theme.  Since Evolve-D doesn't have those links, I figured it was something that could be edited in the theme itself, and not Moodle core specific.  (I am temporarily back to Evolve-D, to prevent students from accessing those links.)

Any suggestions as to where to look or how to remove those from the theme?


Thanks!

Brian

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread - Next/Previous Activity - Jump-To Activity
 

CORRECTION:  "Orphaned" gamification features

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread - Next/Previous Activity - Jump-To Activity
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Hey Brian,

I have a solution.  The activity navigation is added to the page with this line of code:

{{{ output.activity_navigation }}}

You can see it and remove it here:

https://github.com/dbnschools/moodle-theme_fordson/blob/master/templates/columns2.mustache#L105

which is in the Fordson > templates > columns2.mustache file.


Hope that helps.  This activity navigation was a new feature in core Moodle 3.4.

Chris

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread - Next/Previous Activity - Jump-To Activity
 

Thanks, Chris!  When I found out that students were "gaming" the system, I had to revert to Evolve-D until I made a new clone version of Fordson.  I now have time to recreate my close with specific settings for our Global Studies course.

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread - Next/Previous Activity - Jump-To Activity
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So I am more curious about why it was pulling those activities to start with - did you have them set to the new Stealth mode?

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

Ran into another issue, which I am sure will be easy to fix.


The last time, I was able to increase the font size of the activity/lesson titles and the icons in the section pages by adding

body { font-size:  120%; }

.fa { font-size: 120%;}


While it is changing some text, such as those in other blocks, the actual names of the lessons/activities are remaining the same.  I even tried exaggerating it to 300% to make sure it wasn't just my perception; they remained the same.  Since our students primarily use Chromebooks, they liked when I had slightly larger fonts for listing their activities.


I miss the nav drawer customization, because I was able to have course specific links available to Global Studies students (since it was a Global Studies theme).  I contacted the author of the Boost navigation fumbling plugin that you recommended, seeing if it allowed teacher addition of links for specific courses.  If not, I might have to try to add the links somewhere in the theme.


Thanks again for the help. wink

 
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Re: Fordson V1.6.0 Discussion and Support Thread
 

I forgot that I also tried adjusting the value here with the result appearing to be the size the word "edit" in edit mode:


.section li.activity {

    padding: $spacer;

    border-radius: 5px;

    border-bottom: 1px dashed $gray-lighter;

    font-size: 14px;

 
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