Moodle in English: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle

How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Marcelo Rodrigues - Monday, February 13, 2017, 7:21 PM

Hello everyone,

Please, please kindly help me with the following question:

1- We used Moodle 2.7.14 and the Grades tool, presented the Simple View and Full View options, within Category and Items. This was wonderful because we set up several activities at once, quickly.

2- We switched to Moodle version 3.0.8 and now the Grades tool no longer has the Simple View and Full View items. No more Category and Items. There is the Single Vision item. Excuse me, but I thought it was very bad.

Now to set up the activities, we need to enter and edit one by one. We lost a lot of time, going from activity to activity, to make the configurations. Excuse me, but I thought it looked awful!

Questions:

A- Is there any way to make the item Category and Items appear again?

B- Is there any way to make Simple View and Full View appear within the Grades tool?

Maybe, I did not get it right as new tools, but I thought we lost usability. It's my opinion.

If anyone can help me, thank you very much.

Thank you very much! Marcelo.

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Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Paula Clough - Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 9:24 AM

Hello Marcelo,

The grade book has changed. I haven't had the opportunity to really play a whole lot with it as I am retired from teaching now but I remember those views and my instructors and I used them a lot.

I cannot find anyway to bring them back. Here is the information on how and where to add categories.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Marcelo Rodrigues - Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 9:26 PM

Dear Teacher Paula,

Thank you very much for your care in responding and for your precious guidance.

I am investigating, but I think there is no way to make "simple vision" and "full vision" look like before.

We were stunned here, as the gradebook preview, once so good, got so bad.

Who knows in the next versions someone is sensitized with the difficulty that we are facing and throw a plugin on this.

Thank you very much, Teacher Paula!

Marcelo.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Emma Richardson - Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 10:38 PM

You can still add items and categories. In your Course Administration menu, go to Gradebook Setup. The buttons are still there as they were before.

While I might agree that the single view page is a little clunky, it gives a functionality that has been looked for for a long time. Now you can grade a single student across all activities or give all students the same grade in an activity without going through one by one.

I too miss the advanced view but am learning to live without it

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Marcelo Rodrigues - Thursday, February 16, 2017, 10:07 PM

Dear Teacher Emma,

Thank you very much for your comments and for your guidance.

Yes, it really is a breakthrough to be able to assign grades to students, as you explained.

But the vision of the activities was not good. Now, in the morning, I had to unlock about 10 activities of a certain discipline, so that students post their file uploads.

Before with Simple Vision:

I entered the GradeBook >> Simple Vision >> and on the same screen unlocked all 10 activities.

Now without Simple Vision:

To access the unlock and preview buttons, I need:

Click on edit activity 1 >> and in the new screen click again to unlock >> click on save all and return to the activities screen

For activity 2 the same procedure as above is followed, and so on.

Before I clicked 10 times to unlock 10 activities and today I click 30 times to do the same thing.

Despite this lack of usability, we love Moodle a lot and it has been a wonderful time for our students!

We hope that in the next versions the return of the visualization of the activities happens as it was before. Even if you do not change as you are today, but if possible add this old form.

Thank you very much, Professor Emma!

Marcelo.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Emma Richardson - Friday, February 17, 2017, 12:20 AM

I have to wonder why all your activities are locked to begin with?

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Marcelo Rodrigues - Monday, February 20, 2017, 6:28 PM

Dear Teacher Emma,

I'm sorry for the delay in replying.

Yes, there are 3 deadlines in an activity:

First - Period of time, where the student needs to send their files.

Second - Activity correction period - Starts when the 1st ends

Third - Sending the notes to the University System - Starts when the 2nd ends

Procedures:

1- When the activity correction time ends, the activity is blocked by the Course Secretary and the file is sent to the University System.

1.1- Before activities were blocked by the Course Secretary, there were often situations where tutors delayed corrections. With this, there were cases in which the Course Secretary sent the notes to the University System and after this occurred, tutors corrected the activities and sent the students' notes to Moodle.

As a result students got Zero grade in the University System.

1.2- Currently, the Course Secretariat blocks activities after the end of the correction period. This ensures that the file uploaded to the University System reflects exactly what is in Moodle.

1.3- The tutors who delay the sending of notes, will have to do it by e-mail to the Course Secretary. With these data, the Coordination of the Curso can act on the tutors who delay the sending of the notes and protect the students, so that they do not leave without notes in the System of the University.

2- There is another situation where note blending occurs. It is as follows:

2.1- There are activities that require the teacher of the discipline, follow closely, even guiding, as the tutors must correct.

There are several cases, in which the notes given by the tutors, are outside the criterion, previously established by the teachers. With this there were complaints from the students and the tutors changed the grades up. Most of these modifications did not meet the correction criteria, informed by the teachers of the discipline.

With this, the teachers of the discipline, block the activity, preventing tutors from throwing wrong notes in Moodle (very up).

There are many tutor exchanges and it is not always possible to keep a team with experience.

Many thanks, teacher Emma!

Marcelo.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Emma Richardson - Monday, February 20, 2017, 9:31 PM

I agree with you that the new gradebook setup is a lot harder to manage. I understand the desire for a simpler screen but when you actually have to do something, it takes a lot longer. I suggest putting in a tracker request for it.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Marcelo Rodrigues - Wednesday, February 22, 2017, 10:27 PM

Hello Teacher Emma,

Thank you very much for your consideration and precious guidance.

To whom should I forward, a suggestion requesting a change of view of the activities screen?

Dear teacher, thank you! Marcelo.

Re: How to enable Simple View and Full View in Moodle - Version 3.0.8 ?

by Emma Richardson - Thursday, February 23, 2017, 12:26 AM

tracker.moodle.org