i'm beginner in moodle. i wanna have an integration uportal with
moodle. as what i searched, you're esup service has been built in this
case. during searching, i encountered with different concepts like
CAS, channel and so on. i'll be appreciated helping with me about how
to start using this service and have integration. i've got confused
among these concepts.
I don't understand your question, could you explain further?
i mean, i don't know how have integration via cmoodle-proxy-portlet. i haven't seen clear instructions as what to do in moodle for integration uportal and moodle by cmoodle-proxy-portlet. can anyone explain me step by step? i'm really confused.
What is cmoodle-proxy-portlet?
'Portlets' are mentioned on the uPortal website, so I would assume its their linking mechanism - version of LTI or API or webservice (don't use uPortal so not sure).
But this does look like its a question that needs to be asked of uPortal in the first instance.
why not using uportal? LTI or API, what are these?
If you are asking why I'm not using uPortal, then I would have to ask 'Why would I use uPortal?'
Have looked at their website and can't see any benefits over our existing front end (a relatively straightforward website) and our existing single sign on system. Possibly if I was looking for something new I might look again and take a closer look, but I wouldn't replace a working system just for the sake of it.
LTI - Learning Tools Interoperability
API - Application Programming Interface
These are probably terms you need to be at least aware of if you are looking to integrate systems.
zahra your best route to getting an answer to any question is to give as much information as possible, e.g. I am trying to install X from www.thissite.com onto Y from www.thatsite.com and I have searched the web for documentation by typing something into google but all it turns up is information on something. I was hoping that it would give me the benefit of [some benefit from this product], can anyone help?.
I really don't mean to patronise but that approach is likely to be of benefit.
I have been reading these forums just about every day for over ten years and this is the first time I have heard of cmoodle-proxy-portlet so I suspect the expert advice you are seeking is probably elsewhere. What benefit are you looking for?
I think moodle capabilities isn't enough for using in universities and portals give more fecilities.i want something more than a simple moodle.
"I think moodle capabilities isn't enough for using in universities and portals give more fecilities.i want something more than a simple moodle."
These places appear to think that Moodle has capabilities appropriate for a University
(see some more statistics here https://moodle.net/stats/
University of Cambridge
University College London, UK
University of Minnesota, United States
Bangladesh National University, Bangladesh – this is the 2nd largest university in the world, by enrollment.
UL Lafayette Moodle 2 – University of Louisiana at Lafayette
The University of Nottingham, UK
Moodle – E-Learning – University of Kent
City, University of London
University of Lethbridge
University of Essex
Federation University Australia
University of Alberta, Canada
University of the Arts, London
University of Warwick, Coventry, England.
Louisiana Tech University
Wrexham Glyndŵr University, UK
University of Canberra, Australia
University of Massachusetts Amherst, US
Coventry University College, UK – Good
University of Manchester, Manchester, England, UK
Holy Cross College, Manchester, UK
The University of Nizwa, Sultanate of Oman
University of East London, UK
La Trobe University, Australia – Good
Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
University of New South Wales, UNSW, Australia
The University of Hong Kong (HKU) – Hong Kong
Wingate University, North Carolina, US
Notre Dame de Namur University — formerly the College of Notre Dame, California, US
St. George’s, University of London, UK
Australian National University, Australia
University of Bath, UK – good
University of Edinburgh, UK – good
University of Malaya, Malaysia
Queen’s University, Canada
University of Kent, UK
Oakland University, Michigan, US
UWS – University of the West Scotland, UK
University of Portsmouth, UK
The University of New South Wales, UNSW, UK
University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK
Royal Holloway, University of London, UK
Lincoln University, PA, US
Fresno Pacific University, California, United States
The University of Mount Olive, US
The Education University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong
University of Vienna, Austria
Southeastern Louisiana University, US
Lancaster University, Lancashire, England, UK
Thomas Edison State University, NJ, US
University of Maribor, Slovenia
University of New Mexico – Health Sciences Center
Stillwater Area Public Schools, US
University of Detroit Jesuit High School and Academy, Detroit, US
Université de Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada – in French
University of Puget Sound, Washington, US
University of Washington, US
Frankfurt University of Applied Sciences, Germany
Viadrina European University, Frankfurt, Germany
Aalborg University, Denmark
Humanitas University, Italy
Université de Saint-Boniface, Canada
Université catholique de Louvain, Belgium – in French
University of Geneva, Geneva, Switzerland
University of Aveiro, Portugal – good UI – in Portugese
École polytechnique fédérale de Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland
Rovira i Virgili University, Spain – in Spanish
Universidad Nacional de Colombia, Colombia – in Spanish
University Of Montana, US
University of Macau, Macau, China
University of Portsmouth, US
Lee University, TN, US
University of New Orleans, US
University of Arizona, US
University of Bolton, Greater Manchester, England
University of Great Falls, Montana, US
University of the West of Scotland, UK
University of Gloucestershire, UK
University of Wisconsin-Madison, US
Dominican University of California, US
University of Education, Winneba, Ghana
University of Chichester, England, UK
University of Dubuque, Dubuque, Iowa, US
University of Illinois, US
University of Guam, Thailand
University of Portland, US
University of New England, Australia – good UI
University of Otago, Christchurch, New Zealand
University of Victoria, Canada
Asian Institute of Technology, Thailand
University of Guyana, Guyana
University of Auckland, New Zealand
University of Buckingham, UK
Brandon University, Manitoba, Canada
Concordia University of Edmonton, Canada
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine , London, UK
University of Roehampton, UK – good UI
Pacific University, Oregon, US
American University of Beirut, Lebanon
Also, Curtin University Australia,
my alma mater Flinders University, Australia
165 High schools in South Australia
2 not-for-profit welfare support organizations
1 employment support provider,
1 theatre troop
17 advanced technical training schools
2 fast food outlet franchises, international
and discussions have occurred with one other major transnational company about them using it.
That I know about.
If you are looking for something flexible and adaptable to any training routine, Moodle is likely the best, least expensive and most widely supported learning management system around. Having sad that I have to ask:
Have you considered what your training need really is? Academic? Industrial? Professional?
What is your budget? A couple of million or some loose change in the bottom of the boss' pocket?
How many potential users? 25 to 250,000?
What is the learning curve that best suits you? Needed yesterday or we can take a couple of years?
Moodle suits all these things. BUT:
The Java content of uPortal would rule it out for me, as I understand it, it's still too slow and carries far too much overhead. The non-connectivity nature of web based technologies are far more suitable to a higher flexibility requirement than Java too, I suggest.
uPortal is likely a fine product in its context, but to try to integrate Moodle... a dubious result at best, I would suggest.
Forgive me but I think that is unnecessarily harsh. As I understand it, *none* of those universities use Moodle as their sole online presence; every one of them will also have some form of CMS living in front of, or alongside, their Moodle LMS. This is what I think the original poster is getting at.
Perhaps, OP, rather than uPortal, you might consider Joomla (Moodle plugin here: https://moodle.org/plugins/auth_joomdle) or Drupal (Moodle plugin here to integrate SSO but it looks like it hasn't been updated in a while: https://moodle.org/plugins/auth_drupalservices). These CMS platforms are PHP-based, like Moodle, and will be in much more widespread usage alongside Moodle than uPortal is. Therefore, you'll have more people potentially able to offer assistance with specific issues.
"As I understand it, *none* of those universities use Moodle as their sole online presence; every one of them will also have some form of CMS living in front of, or alongside, their Moodle LMS. This is what I think the original poster is getting at."
I suspect you are right about the thinking behind the original question. I would be startled if any of those places used Moodle as their entire online presence, but the question was unclear.
It is a matter of the right tool for the job. So I would recommend a content management system for front end/marketing stuff, a Virtual Learning Environment such as Moodle for the management of learning, a school management system for the things related to enrolment and a library management system for library systems etc etc. Perhaps key to all this is the identity management and single sign on to tie everything together.
I have never understood the idea of a generic portal to do all things for all purposes.
so CMSs that u introduced, can't cover all if these? i didn't understand your mean clearly. also i didn't think moodle is usalable in hospitals and restaurants and etc.
Marcus is right, there are specialist tools for all these areas and these specialist tools will be better at their tasks (Student management, Learning environment, Content management) than just trying to get a single portal to do everything.
I am not sure why you think Moodle would be unsuitable for hospitals and restaurants. The point is, Moodle is an LMS. At a high level, wherever you need an LMS, you can use Moodle (or pretty much any other equivalent LMS). Corporate learning, schools, universities, health sector, leisure. The other stuff - that's where you choose the other components that work best for you. Moodle won't handle your restaurant bookings, and it won't handle your hospital admissions, but that's not its job. This is exactly the same as you saying "I don't think Moodle will do everything I want for my Uni, I need to add a portal on the front". You also need an admissions system, a content management system, etc. etc. It's the same thing.
Certainly, one size does not fit all, that is for sure.
One of my small Moodles works with training staff in understanding current law, consumer law, tax law, social laws, even road law. Another part of this Moodle helps clientele in getting a better understanding of everything from their cell phone bills to personal relationships. A Moodle I used to admin, is still going but I trained staff there to admin it themselves, concentrates on low levels of literacy, classroom/online/remote learning and offers a generic advice kiosk in the form of forums - modelled on these forums btw - I get all my best ideas from other people.. Yet another offers advice for grief counselling, family violence and similar personal issues.
My university Moodle provided a framework to access specific courses, but also held links to specialist tools required in those courses.
I am amazed at how varied and widespread Moodle is used, and people keep letting us know that they are using Moodle in a way I had never considered. I was surprised to learn a Shakespearian theatre company uses their Moodle to offer advice to young actors on how to dissect characters, how to examine their roles, how to vary the roles to make the role their own.
Moodle is a tool that can be used to transmit everything from the fundamental received wisdom to the darkest arts of the deepest skills humans have developed. So far, there doesn't seem to be any limit to that depth of knowledge that Moodle cannot be used for. Remember though, it is just one tool in a myriad of tools and most of them can be easily used in conjunction with each other.
thanks for your edited answers
We would be very happy to talk integration strategies on the uportal-user list: https://groups.google.com/a/apereo.org/group/uportal-user/
For starters, please tell us what sort of content from Moodle you hope too bring into the portal?
thanks for group, first i want to know about reasons of integrations and benefits of that. as friends answers, it's not necessary. currently, learning management content is my objective function.
Would you be able to give a short summary of the benefits of using uPortal. I have read through this
And I am still none the wiser. I can see it is scalable, but what benefit is it scaling?