My only disappointment is that we seem to be going back to London for the second year running and the 4th time overall, which (for me) means a significant increase in expenses compared to almost anywhere else (including Dublin, which was cheaper). I realise that the "vote" at the end of the last conference in favour of Manchester isn't binding, but there did seem to be a clearly expressed wish to take MoodleMoot to a part of the country where it had not previously been held. Can I put in advance request for 2018 to be somewhere else?
One other thought, I have seen comments elsewhere in these forums that there aren't many primary/secondary schools represented at MoodleMoot. It might be worth taking a cue from the approach of PyCon UK (which I help to run), who have very strong representation from schools at their conference. This representation does come at a price, the conference provides bursaries for attendees from schools, runs a dedicated teachers/education day as a pre-conference session and has workshops involving children going on during the conference. Much of this is organised by the RaspberryPi foundation. This could be part of the main conference, or a separately organised "Schools day" at a different time.
It is correct and announcement coming soon.
It comes down to availability of suitable venues and good travel including flight options - and as much diversity in pricing for accomodation locally as possible. Having ~350 attend for this style of conference, has certain requirements. The goal currently is Glasgow for 2018.
We have been looking at a separate schools moot - more info to come.
As it happens, a comparable venue in Manchester would cost more to run and have a higher ticket price as a knock on.
I'll look forward to Glasgow 2018, although it would have been nice to see MoodleMoot go to a region of the country where it has not previously been held, Glasgow is a good choice for me personally so I can't really object. It means I can justify tacking on a few days skiing in the Highlands pre or post conference if the snow holds.
I sincerely hope to see a reduction in overall costs for 2018. My hotel for London 2016 cost 50% more than Dublin 2015 for a vastly inferior room which was a 20 minute walk from the venue. Considering the premium which I always seem to pay for a hotel room in London, the costs may well have balanced out and made Manchester cheaper overall.
I think I've said this to you in person, but I do find the difficulties you have finding a suitable venue very surprising. I do wonder the extent to which making the criteria too strict is contributing to the overall cost. eg To what extent is the timing during the Easter holiday pushing up the hotel costs, coupled with the need to hire huge rooms to accommodate the "Banqueting" style seating (which I find to be very unsatisfactory). The best MoodleMoot by far in recent years for me was the one held on the DCU campus which used proper lecture rooms. Although the walking around the campus wasn't ideal, being physically closer to the presenters for the actual talks made the event far more engaging.
I think the show of hands was 'Advisory' not giving a 'mandate' ;) :D
However, there did seem to be a more general understanding (reflected in the options given for the vote) that it was time for MoodleMoot to go to a new part of the country, so I'm disappointed to see us back in London for the 4th time in 9 years. So far there have only been 2 Ireland/UK MoodleMoots outside of SE England and Ireland since it started, those being Edinburgh (2014) and Loughborough (2006 I think).
That said, I appreciate that the earlier Moot's were organised by a different team and that the location of the organising team has a strong influence on the venue (we have the same issue for PyCon UK), especially if the team is doing the job as a "community effort", which was the case until recently. However, now that HQ is backing the Ireland/UK moots, I had hoped that this would change in the interests of trying to make the conference as accessible as possible.
Assuming that Glasgow in 2018 is likely, it would be great to then see N. England or Wales for 2019.
Did make the Wales suggestion at last year's conference, but was pointed out that I'm probably the only regular Welsh attendee over the last few years and I no longer work at a Welsh uni either, so there's probably no strong desire to host it in Wales.
North of England on the other hand - or even the South West...
I keep telling myself I ought to go to PHPcon UK, but I don't think it's ever been held outside of London, so I never go. I only go to MoodleMoot in London because I went to and enjoyed the earlier MoodleMoots elsewhere.
Yeh - I'm out. London is too depressing.
I know you'll all be disappointed but you'll soldier on without me somehow
Oh no! Who's going to NOT carry my bags for the umpteenth year running
I was younger then Mary
I'm really looking forward to this years UK and Ireland MoodleMoot.
From my view point I like London as a venue, it's straight forward and not too stressful to get there (although it's a bit of a trek). I can get a direct train to London and catch the underground to the venue.
Last year I stayed at an affordable budget hotel that was a quick 10-15 minute walk from the Park Plaza. This year I managed to book in at the Park Plaza with one of their early booking offers.
I like that the Park Plaza conference rooms are next to each other, which makes it easy to move between the rooms to see the presentations you want without too much walking around.
Glasgow on the other hand, that's going to be tricky. When I mentioned that it might be a possible venue next year my boss express some reservations.
I come from a primary/secondary school with a sixth form college. So far we have the secondary school and sixth form college online with Moodle and we are looking to have the primary school online by September 2018. The idea of a schools moot sounds interesting and I look forward to hearing more about it.
Hello Ross. I'm very keen on meeting up with people from a primary/secondary/sixth form school background, coming from one myself. Hopefully we can find other school Moodlers and all have a chat
Hi Mary, I'd love to meet up with you and any other school Moodlers during the MoodleMoot. I'm keen to hear how other schools implement and work with Moodle.
There are people I know who work with Moodle in the Birmingham area who would go to MoodleMoot if it was held locally, but won't go to London on grounds of cost. I have no doubt the same logic applies everywhere, so moving the conference about will get more people involved in the community even if they aren't able to become regulars at the conference because they can't afford to travel. I am concerned that if the conference becomes too entrenched in one location, the locals who can't afford to travel elsewhere will become the loudest voice (because longer distance attendees will drift away) and prevent it from ever moving. This has happened to the PHP conference, which (to my knowledge) hasn't moved from central London for a long time (If ever? As a result, I've never bothered to go). It almost happened to PyCon, but there has fortunately been a move to Cardiff which has helped to bring in a lot of new people.
I completely agree with your all of your points and was talking more from my own personal experience. I'm sorry if I came across as personally singling you out
I have no problem with the MoodleMoot moving around the UK and when it does move from London I'll do my best to find a way to get to where ever it ends up.
Just incase you did not get my message or saw the email to say that the post you made in the themes forum asking about a presentation by Richard Oelmann, then have no fear the post is not lost or deleted but moved to the Lounge Forum,
Given the lavish catering at any MoodleMoot organised by Gavin, not having breakfast seems like a good tactical move!
I can confirm the quality and abundance of all food at Moots.
Glasgow is great... all the best people live in Glasgow (or just outside).
It has an airport (two in fact!). Some railway stations with regular trains and loads of places to stay.
It does rain quite a lot unfortunately
I am! Looking forward to my second Moodlemoot!
I will be there.
I am, I've booked for all three days.
Mary, would you still be interested in meeting up at some point during the Moot?
Hi Ross. Yes I would be interested in meeting up. I hope the only other secondary teacher I know who comes regularly will be there too - so you can meet him as well And Richard, as you know, has experience of schools too. We get plenty of coffee breaks and long lunches so we can seek each other out.
I'm assuming that our annual developers trip to the pub will be happening Monday evening, I'm certainly up for it. I probably won't be online again until I arrive on Monday, so count me in to whatever gets arranged.