Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Claude Eilers -
Number of replies: 7

Hi all.  I'm not sure whether the problem that I will describe here is a bug or there is some setting that needs to be changed. I thought I'd ask here before submitting it to the bug-tracker. Perhaps someone else can either replicate it or tell me what I'm doing wrong.

In Moodle 3.1, the grades for Quizzes are not being recorded in the grade-book when completed by a non-editing teacher. Grades are recorded for students, however, and changing someone from non-editing teacher to student and having them redo the quiz makes it so that grades are now recorded.

Can anyone explain this? or replicate?

Thanks.

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Paula Clough -

An admin on your site needs to do this.  Check Site Administration> Grades>General Settings and check that graded roles includes your non-editing teacher.

Hope that helps.

cool

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Claude Eilers -

Thanks, Paula.  As far as I can see, that General Settings panel allows you to include who appears on the grade-book.  But my non-editing teachers also have student roles, and thus do both appear in the grade-book.  The problem is that grades are not appearing for them for Moodle Quizzes, although grades do appear for Hot Potato Quizzes.

I set up a mock course and created two accounts: one as student, one with both student-role and non-editing teacher role.  The course has a hot-pot and a moodle quiz.  I logged in as each in turn and did the quizzes.  This is the result.

The non-editing teacher did that quiz, but the mark doesn't appear.

This must be a bug, no?

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Paula Clough -

Did you try adding the grading for the non editing teachers?  I am not sure about 3.1 as I am still finding new things in it, but in older versions when a user had more than one role a course, the system would count the role higher  in the hierarchy and so somethings would not work in the student role because the higher role counter acted it.

cool 

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Claude Eilers -

Thanks, Paula and Emma.  Yes, I made non-editing teachers gradeable, but their grades are still not appearing.  It's odd that the grades of Hotpot quizzes are being recorded, though quizzes are not. I'm pretty sure this is a bug.

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Emma Richardson -
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Oh, I think I know what it might be...you need to remove the preview quiz permission from the non-editing teacher role.

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Claude Eilers -

Preview quizzes

That fixed it Emma!  Removing the preview quiz permission from the non-editing teacher role means that grades are recorded.


(In case someone else finds this question, that permission is found at Course Administration > Users > Permissions > Define Roles > [Non-Editing Teacher] > Edit > Preview Quizzes)

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Re: Grades for non-editing teachers (v. 3.1)

by Emma Richardson -
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I think that you could fix this by making the non-editing teacher role a gradeable role.  Then you would not need to give them the student role.  This did change at one point - you used to be able to give people both roles but now it does not work as well as it used to.