I realize that once I commit to one, it will be difficult to export its content to the other Acivity type, therefore, the decision is critical.
After downloading both tools and experimenting with them for a while, I see that the standard Wiki is more stable, while dfWiki had several fatal errors while trying to save pages, so my personal preference for now would be to use he standard Wiki.
However, I'm concerned that if the development would shift to dfWiki, it may eventually replace the existing standard Wiki, which may become obsolete/defunct.
Martin, what's the road map for this Activity? If dfWiki replaces Wiki, will there be an export tool to transfer all current Wiki content to the new Activity?
I cannot answer your question because I'm one of the developers of DFwiki. As you say, DFwiki is already under developement, but we hope that soon i will be compatible with old Moodle wiki content.
Otherwise, we're interested in those fatal errors you said. It will be helpfull if you send us a mail or a message describing those problems. We want DFwiki to be the next oficial Moodle wiki but we need some help from the users.
See you soon,
I have experienced some problems with downloading grades to excel (see http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=35781). I tested it on my test site and received the following error message:
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers
already sent by (output started at c:\program
files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\mod\dfwiki\blocks\lib.php:13) in c:\program
files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\grade\lib.php on line 1203
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\mod\dfwiki\blocks\lib.php:13) in c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\grade\lib.php on line 1205
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\mod\dfwiki\blocks\lib.php:13) in c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\grade\lib.php on line 1206
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\mod\dfwiki\blocks\lib.php:13) in c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\grade\lib.php on line 1207
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\mod\dfwiki\blocks\lib.php:13) in c:\program files\easyphp1-8\www\moodle\grade\lib.php on line 1208
I just thought I would let the dfwiki people know.
actually there is no further development on the starndar wiki moudle,
the moodle team is simply trying to maintain it because the original developer
is missing. Rigth now dfwiki is alive and we are developing more functionalities.
I can't tell you about the moodle team decisions but the dfwiki team intends to have dfwiki ready to replace the wiki module in less than two months (so cross your fingers). Anyway the dfwiki will have a old wiki import and restore feature so you will be able to upgrade without much trouble.
Please, if you experiencied bugs in dfwiki please tell us about it so we can correct it. (I've experiencied errors in saving dfwiki pages if I used the "go back" buttot in the navigator... and we are youking to solve it. Is this your case).
Thank you for evaluating dfwiki in any case
Whilst it is fascinating for a new class to continue building onto a wiki by past students, there is equal merit to starting afresh with a blank slate to see what the new group can make up together.
dfWiki sounds interesting. We never quite got the image attachment feature of the old wiki quite working but did some good stuff without it.
We use Moodle - and the two Wikis - in 4CforMedia, a research project about project management in media projects. One topic is the use of virtual collaboration platforms in this kind of projects, so we use the Wikis intensively to evaluate in how far they can be used for these purposes.
I just read this discussion, which was held a while ago already. DFWiki seems to be integrated into Moodle pretty well already. Is the roadmap still in effect as described above? And if so: Will DFWiki finally have this "Referring Link" feature implemented which is used in Erfurt Wiki? I found it very helpful for navigating while you create new pages.
we implement a navigation block to know all the possible referring links and destinations.
We also implement two more blocks : index and index from current that improve navigation: See our demo nwiki
thanks very much - this looks like exactly what we were looking for!
We have just published a new revisions of DFwiki which can be downloaded from the official page. This revision fixes a concurrency bug. It's only a partial solution but shortly we will implement a merge algorithm for preventing the data loosing in concurrent page edition.
We hope that soon, your decision of using the old Moodle wiki will change. DFwiki is a gowing program and users suggestions are always necessary and needed.
I am a media wiki and DFwiki fan. DFwiki with its priviledges seems to be superior even to mediawiki! Wow.
I would like to use DFwiki but I am scared of what would happen when I upgrade my moodle since DFwiki is not standard module.
Can DFwiki content be exported to a mediawiki?
Do you know what the "upgrade issues" that Martin has pointed out are? Are your plans to replace the official wiki in "2 months" going as planned?!
The current wiki does not work with Japanese, without patching it anyway, so for me DFwiki is the clear winner.
I don't think that moodle upgrades will affect to dfwiki contents.
Since we don't have the final word (martin has) we don't kwno when dfwiki is going to become "the wiki" but we will try to achieve the requirements to get it.
About mediawiki export.... I haven't considered yet, but since dfwiki will export to xml in less than two weeks you can allways write an xslt to translate it to any format you like.
Thank you for your response.
I am a little scared to use non-standard modules but I am sure that dfwiki is going to become the standard. I hope that Martin gives it his seal of approval soon, since, for one thing I hope to use it here.
With regard to the since the DFWIKI offering so much more than even the mediawiki upon which it was based, I don't think that I will ever want to export to a mediawiki.
The export to XML ready in 2 weeks will presumably be coupled with an import from XML?
That is enough. If so then I can start putting content into a DFwiki today. Yes...i am doing this as we speak.
dfwiki and mediawiki does not share code (well except for a few lines in the diff feature that we borrowed ) but, yes we have the will to keep in the future the dfwiki markup as compatible as possible with the markup used in mediawiki... But rigth now we are very focussed in setting up dfwiki to become the oficial wiki in moodle ( we are almost done and I'm going to knock at MD's door next week ) and a new dfwiki related activity called wikibook that you'll hear about soon.
Hi this is indeed GREAT news. I want to explore Wikis further and some REAL stumbkling blocks have been getting in my way (I still use 1.4 - upgrading soon). So I can't wait see what you have done
We allready have an alpha version that I want to release this week...
Then you all will have to conribute with testing and giving ideas...
I posted a litle presentation in spanish ... It contains some screenshots of what's comming.