Moodle in English: Poodl depository not more possible

Poodl depository not more possible

by FLEUSSU Serge - Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 7:46 PM

We use PoodLL Repository 2014050100 (2.5.3 Build 2014050100) on a 2.8.5+ (Build 20150313) version of Moodle. PoodLL Filter is version 2014121701 2.7.3 (Build 2014111601). Until friday, all was working well : deposit of files via PoodLL recording worked well.

Now, when trying to deposit a file using PoodLL recording, we only have the 'Next' button, the recording tool does not appear on the screen (and this for audio, audiodirect and video). We checked all the options and nothing seems to have changed. We did not make any Moodle or plugin upgrade or installation since two weeks so we do'nt know what is wrong now.

I make a screen capture in annex.

Any help or idea is welcome.

Thanks.

Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by FLEUSSU Serge - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 7:32 AM

The problem is due to the french version of filter_poodll.php included in the language pack 2.8. If this file is removed from the moodledata/lang/fr directory, all is working very well again (but configuration of PoodLL will be in English).

Trying to fix the file ...

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Justin Hunt - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 11:50 AM

Thanks for finding the problem. I would never have thought to check the language files.

If you can let me know that would be wonderful.

Justin

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by FLEUSSU Serge - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 4:15 PM

Not sure that the file is the problem. When removing the french file, it works fine. But, the file appeared again this night in our production site (don't know how : investigation in progress...)

On the test site, the file is there and it works well (in French). So we copy the file from the test site to the production site and it does'nt work anymore. Deleting the file makes the production site to work again. So the file does not seem to be the direct problem. When copying the English file to the fr directory, it works too.

Investigation in progress :

- how is the file again in the directory (with a new date 18-03 04:10) ?
- why is the french file not working on production site ?

Serge

PS : I would like to mention here that the PoodLL plugin is very great and thank to Justin to the work done (despite this little problem that, for sure, will be soon arranged).

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Séverin Terrier - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 4:47 PM

Hi Serge,

I think i can answer some of your questions, about the new french file. As you certainly know, translation (even from plugins) are contained in language packs. You're using Moodle 2.8, and it allows an automatic update of the language packs. That certainly explains why you have new files. It's also the case if you've manually updated your language packs.

Moreover, i've made (small) improvments on the PoodLL filter french translation yesterday.

What i don't really understand is why you have such a problem, depending on the file there is in place... have you cleaned caches?

Séverin

PS : if you speak french, it could be a good idea to post in french forums

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Séverin Terrier - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 7:23 PM

Hi,

In fact, i see that i've got the same problem with PoodLL assignment submissions on Moodle 2.7.7

And when i delete the PoodLL filter french translation, it works again. I'll really have to investigate that. And will ask Nicolas Martignoni (french pack maintener) to also have a look at that.

Séverin

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Nicolas Martignoni - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 7:53 PM

Hi,

Séverin, can you confirm that the problem is due to the strings translater yesterday?

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Séverin Terrier - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 8:01 PM

Hi Nicolas,

For the moment, i can just confirm that deleting filter_poodll.php from moodledata/lang/fr allows to work well again!

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Justin Hunt - Thursday, March 19, 2015, 8:41 AM

I'm watching this thread, but not actively working on it.

However if the issue needs me to fix it, please say so. And if you can't track it down then please report that, and I will look at it.

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Nicolas Martignoni - Thursday, March 19, 2015, 5:29 PM

I checked visually all the strings in the french translation of filter_poodll, but failed to see anything strange. It would be very useful to know if a particular string is causing the problem.

Anyway, I amended some translations, to enable a regeneration of the french translation (this was done yesterday). It wouldn't hurt to test if the problem is still there after a language pack update.

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Séverin Terrier - Thursday, March 19, 2015, 7:31 PM

I've made some investigations, after updating language pack, and found the strings causing problems :
$string['recui_echo'] = 'Suppression d\'écho';
$string['recui_uploaderror'] = 'Une erreur est survenue et votre fichier n\'a PAS été déposé.';

Delete these 2 strings and it's OK, leave only one of them (alone in filtre_poodll.php file) and it doesn't work

But i don't know why...

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Séverin Terrier - Friday, March 20, 2015, 12:18 AM

I've tried to replace these strings :

with empty strings : no problem
with 'blabla' : no problem
if i put back the original strings : nothing works

So, i think there's perhaps something to investigate somewhere in the filter...

Séverin

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Justin Hunt - Friday, March 20, 2015, 8:00 AM

Those strings are passed into the Flash recorder widgets and appear on the flash settings page, for the audio recorders at least. This was the most recent change to the PoodLL filter 2 - 3 months ago

So that will be the problem. Somehow the accented characters are breaking it. I will look at it today.

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Justin Hunt - Friday, March 20, 2015, 9:20 AM

This was indeed the problem. Sorry for the hassle to you guys. Its fixed now on Github and on Moodle.org plugins database.

Please update.

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by Nicolas Martignoni - Friday, March 20, 2015, 3:39 PM

Thanks Justin, for your rapid fix

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by Séverin Terrier - Friday, March 20, 2015, 4:40 PM

Thanks Justin for the quick fix : it now works OK

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Re: Poodl depository not more possible

by FLEUSSU Serge - Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 7:52 PM

Thanks for the information about update (I was not aware of this).

I've already cleaned the cache without success.

I transfer this to the french forum : https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=309330

Thanks to Justin and Séverin

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