Prominent Ed-Tech Players' Data-Privacy Policies Attract Scrutiny

Prominent Ed-Tech Players' Data-Privacy Policies Attract Scrutiny

by Matt Bury -
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Without any right to audit (these are private corporations with no obligation to subject themselves to democratic oversight), we can only look at their public behaviour and policies, and speculate based on typical corporate ed-tech behaviour throughout their shady histories. Ed-techs already look suspicious so what would they look like if we could see what they were really up to?

Prominent Ed-Tech Players' Data-Privacy Policies Attract Scrutiny: http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/04/16/28privacy_ep.h33.html

Expect to see a big PR and marketing push-back to these concerns without actually revealing what they're up to or doing anything to change it, while they all compete with each other for market share and maximum profitability from children's and students' personal data.

Seems like a better time than ever for educational institutions and organisations to take a more ethical path and host their own LMS' and web analytics, don't you think?

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by Jez H -

I dont think the herd care.

Politicians and regulators are not up to the job and in the rare instances they are can be bought one way or another.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-google-is-transforming-power-and-politicsgoogle-once-disdainful-of-lobbying-now-a-master-of-washington-influence/2014/04/12/51648b92-b4d3-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html

 

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by Matt Bury -
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Hi Jez,

We could get really cynical (realistic?) and say that most present and future concerns raised by politicians about web privacy will be to put pressure on Google, Facebook, et al to do more lobbying and donate more funds for election campaigns.

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by Jez H -

I don't know but it makes a mockery of "of the people, by the people, for the people".

Google, Amazon et al lobbied heavily regarding EU Cookie Law. My understanding of that was that, when it began it related to "right to be forgotten" and sought to address things like cross site tracking (for data mining / ad re-targeting). Things like "opt in" on services like Google were mentioned in the press.

What we ended up with was a ridiculous situation where users have to opt in to cookies on individual sites regardless of whether the cookies are being used to allow you to anonymously switch between a mobile / desktop theme or whether it is being used to insidiously mine personal data for resale to advertisers, and there seems to be no requirement to make a distinction in the opt in.

If regular sites (carts, theme switchers etc) were exempt and only data miners were forced to show the message, and that message clearly stated "do you mind us tracking your movements around the web so we can build a better profile of your individual interests and use that data to target ads based on what we know about you" it may have actually have come close to addressing some of the privacy issues allegedly at the heart of the debate.

This is the tip of the iceberg, Larry Page thinks we should be more open about our medical history as it can help research.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/19/larry-pages-wish-to-make-all-health-data-public-has-big-benefits-and-big-risks/

Unfortunately if there were any conceivable way to do so Google would take that same data and use it to target ads.

Its sadly ironic that the biggest reason not to make those records available in spite of the merit of Larry's argument is the behavior of Larry's own company.

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by Matt Bury -
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Hi Jez,

Personally, I don't buy the "we're only using the data to serve you ads" argument. I've studied up a little on what web surveillance data can be used for, what it's good for and what it isn't. It turns out it's not very good for serving targeted ads. We only hear about the rare exceptions, e.g. the family finding out that their teenaged daughter was pregnant from ads because she'd been searching for help online. 99.99% of the time it's a very blunt instrument that fails more often than not. Web analytics are only useful if you correlate them with other data; the "thicker" the data sets, the more accurate you can be; that's why Google are subsidising smartphones and also trying to get hold of people's data stored elsewhere, e.g. govt databases.

Google seem to want to get into defence contracting and providing services to security agencies, both govt subcontractors and private corporations. That's where the big money is and that's where the scariest scenarios for ordinary people (citizens) are. Corporations would love to have actionable intelligence on protest groups so that they can disrupt them. Also, they can get (and have got) the FBI to raid key members of political movements in order to disrupt their activities, with all their computers, records, and other data, as well as personal possessions, being confiscated and kept for an indeterminate time, and rarely any charges ever being brought against the activists. Also, think of what they could do to whistle-blowers.

Of course they want our medical and educational records. Just imagine the power that it would give them. And just imagine what they'd do with it to maximise their profitability.

[edit] New article: http://hothardware.com/News/Watch-Dogs-Analyzes-Your-Digital-Shadow-Facebook-Data-Miner-Will-Shock-You/

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by Jez H -

That's an interesting article, the data Facebook hold would be very powerful, I think Google worry about that and have tried more than once to create rival social networks and related technology (Orkut, Buzz, Wave, Google +) but they are not too good at it. FB have the data but not too good at processing it, their search tools are a long term project and haven't delivered much as yet.

I think ads are the area they say they will use "personal" information, anonymised data is something else. I think that really is what they are interested in as that's where the money is.

I don't think there is money in providing info to security services. Did the NSA pay for the data they mined? As far as I am aware they just took it because they could, and still can.

The problem handing over data to political entities is there will always be the opposition trying to out any shenanigans publicly, and that would be detrimental to their business.

Google / Facebook's thirst for data sets knows no bounds and privacy concerns are nothing more than a minor irritation easily brushed aside, and that is reason enough to limit what you hand over to them, particularly on mobile where they begin to build a picture of your movements.

The next thing to hook up is your car: http://www.openautoalliance.net/#about and household devices. Not sure if you read this but a fridge was found to be sending email spam:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25780908

A whole new realm for online security / privacy!

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by Guillermo Madero -

Hi Jez,

Fridges are for keeping spam, not sending it! :D

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by Matt Bury -
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Here's an article from a British source more famed for its investigative journalism and strong journalistic values, i.e. they get sued a lot.

"EYESPY

Dodgy data deals

SILICON Roundabout is the groovy name for the UK tech sector, backed with taxpayer cash through Big Society organisations like Tech City Investment Organisation and the Technology Strategy Board and estimated to be worth £225bn, or 12% of GDP, by 2016. But since almost all this will come from "big data" - information gathered for marketing purposes - our blossoming industry might more accurately be called Surveillance Roundabout.

Between them, consumer intelligence companies, credit reporting agencies and data marketing firms hold detailed and current information on almost the entire population. They often suffer data breaches at the hands of hackers, who then use the loot (name, address, national insurance number, etc) for identity theft and fraud. Since there is no law requiring big data companies to reveal hacking or even use encryption, it usually gets covered up. Only when the damage is massive do we see it in the news, as was the case with Experian, Barclays, Lexis-Nexis and Equifax recently.

Besides safekeeping, such an intrusive industry raises another question: is sensitive personal information now mere merchandise? Most UK data brokers have sense enough to hide their creepier practices, but there are exceptions. Clear Data Ltd, based in Herefordshire, advertises lists of old people ("over 65 and mostly female") waiting to be targeted by quack doctors, boiler room conmen, telephone raffle operators, and pyramid schemers in need of credulous targets. Data Broker Limited, from Cheshire, caters to predatory lenders — "[if you're] offering new loans to people With poor credit history and [county court Judgements against them], Databroker have the largest list related to loans for postal, telephone, mobile, SMS, email and social media campaigns".

The company also provides lists of consumers who "seek online relationships". If you can't get a loan or a shag, we'll let the right people know. Or if you're struggling with a betting habit, a firm like the Data Octopus of Manchester might pass on your details in one of its databases of habitual gamblers.

While Washington is looking hard at Silicon Valley data brokers in the US, a recent Senate inquiry describing them as secretive and opaque, the chances of scrutiny here look slim, even though some of the biggest companies directly named in the inquiry report — Epsilon, Experian and Acxiom — also operate extensively in the UK.

UK politicians love getting into bed with trendy tech companies — David Cameron has extensive connections with Google, the tax-dodging behemoth whose revenue model is data surveillance. And how many of our legislators and regulators know anything about the web? Judging by how the Data Protection Act is taken as a joke by techies and as a useless tool by prosecutors, few indeed."

Source: Private Eye, No. 1632, 21st March - 3rd April, 2014, Page 31.

I think that shows a more characteristically accurate view of "big data" and its uses and abuses. Then there's what the big data surveillance firms are not telling us.

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by Jez H -

Yup, our best hope seems to lie with the EU, an organisation which in its history has never had its annual accounts signed off sad

I think Germany has a bit more of a grasp of the issue, even more so after Merkel had her phone tapped.

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by dawn alderson -

you know when you have an itchy-scratchy thing going on-about wanting to say something- well I think I want to say...something controversial.......Merkel......yes switched on lady...........but how long is a piece of string Jez...........tis a waiting game, for sure.  I would suggest tiddlywinks/Marjong or something to keep the mind occupied til then.......cool

EU have their own pace and own agenda........Greece and Spain among others will let you know about all that-while Cameron and Crew sleep off their forty winks, oblivious to reality.

D

 

 

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by Matt Bury -
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The thing with internet capable devices is to ask yourself the question, "Why do I want it to connect to the internet in the first place?"

Does your fridge need to look up articles on Wikipedia.org or \. ? Do fridges get bored these days? Maybe they get lonely and look up fridge dating sites or porn and get infected with malware that way? I wouldn't trust my 1 year-old fridge to surf the web unsupervised :P

GPS systems only need to download maps once and update them every few years (or months if the maps are still incomplete and being made "on the fly" before they're ready). They can do the rest from GPS location signals without the internet.

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by Guillermo Madero -

It'll sure take them quite some effort and time... to warm up!! :p

I barely trust my own computer, let alone a fridge! Yes

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by dawn alderson -

...when things get tough...better call Saul Goodman clown 

If you can't laugh-what is there left to do?

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by Jez H -

A fridge should be able to order a replacement bulb a week before the old one blows. It should also understand its contents and re-order anything you are running out of. It should also alert you to anything past its use by date so you don't eat anything with mould on it.

To accomplish these feats your fridge will need your credit card details, write access to your address book..... 

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by Sam Thing -

I tried picking up a fridge on an internet white goods dating site once. It gave me the cold shoulder.

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by dawn alderson -

Sam,

have said this before, will say it again........oh to be in your world....even if for just one day big grin

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by Guillermo Madero -

Internet-capable devices are getting... let's just say, more interesting smile