Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they are able to apply Stan Bogdanov's Virtual pagination add-on (JCloze main page) in Moodle 2.5?
With either the Hotpot file or the html file, the exercise Check and Hint buttons disappear, and the 'stop' button is no longer effective (IE, Firefox & Chrome).
The exercise works properly outside Moodle.
Many thanks,
Susanna.
Hi Susanna,
could you make a sample file available that I can test on please?
thanks
Gordon
Here is the exercise is have tested.
Many thanks, Gordon.
Susanna.
PS My Moodle Administrator updated the HotPot module a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry I was not clear.
Please attach an HTML file of a JCloze exercise that has the Vertical Pagination behavior you are talking about.
thanks
Gordon
Thanks for making the HTML file available for testing.
I took a quick look and confirmed what you reported.
I don't think it would be too much effort to get this output format working with the HotPot module but I have quite a few things stack up on my todo list, so I won't be able to look at it for a while yet.
I'll let you know when I have chance to look at the situation in more detail.
regards
Gordon
Hi Susanna,
In the meantime you could remove some errors in your file.
1. in the iframe tag
<iframe id="test" runat="server" src="Lunar_parking_permits_script.htm"style=width:600px;height:300px;" frameborder="0" ; ;allowTransparency="true""></iframe>
- add a space between the src and the style
- put the opening quotation marks of style
- remove two semi-colons between frameborder and allowTransparency
- I don't think you need runat="server" - this is .asp only specific
- remove the duplicate quotation marks at the end of the allowTransparency="true"
It must look like this:
<iframe id="test" src="Lunar_parking_permits_script.htm" style="width:600px;height:300px;" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true"></iframe>
iframe is not leagal in xhtml1.1 but we can put up with it if there's no other way
2. Then in the <input type="button" " value="Add to glossary"onclick="window.open[...etc...]
- remove duplicate quotation marks after type="button"
- add space before onclick
to look like this:
<input type="button" value="Add to glossary" onclick="window.open .....
3. Remove the <center> tag before the <audio>. This tag is not legal in xhtml1.1 (hotpotatoes exercises are xhtml1.1 valid). this doesn't break the functionality, but still ... there's no closing tag anyway.
if you want all the content in the reading text to be centered, add this div right before the <audio> tag and close it as the very last thing of the reading textfield content thus wrapping the audio player, the show audio script button, the image and the add to glossary:
<div style="display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;">
all your content in the reading text field
</div>
4. After the closing </iframe> you have unnecessary closing divs </div></div><div></div> - Remove 3 of them.
If you find all this daunting, I can send you back your corrected .jcl file.
Cheers
Stan
P.S. Here it is attached, anyway
Thank you - of course it's not a vital feature, just handy.
Susanna
Susanna,
as well as the issues that Stan pointed out, your html files had other structural and syntax issues. Once those are fixed the file seems to display OK in Moodle 2.x (see screenshot).
I have attached a version of your HTML file that seems to display and behave as expected in Moodle 2.6
For future reference, you can check the syntax of your HTML yourself using free online tools such as the following:
regards
Gordon
Yes,
If syntax is correct, lots of issues are solved "automagically". Many people have pointed this out many times.
We've said that way too many times, but it's important to keep reminding people.
So, Gordon, why don't you put a message in the forum description to validate (or at least remove as many errors as possible) before reporting that something is not working.
This message is on the hotpotatoes Yahoogroup, for example:
When posting a question about a Hot Potatoes exercise, please make sure you put the exercise on the Web and include the URL in the message. We can't help with a problem unless we can see the problem. Also, don't forget to tell us what operating system and browser version you are using.
Please don't post questions about the Moodle HotPot module; those are Moodle problems, so you need to write on the Hotpot module forum http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=1599, one of the Moodle support forums.
Finally, it's always a good idea to validate your exercise page before reporting a problem, in case you've caused the problem yourself by inserting incorrect HTML code. You can use the W3C validator here:
http://validator.w3.org/
You could put something similar.
Cheers
Stan
Hi Stan,
I see what you mean, but I don't think it happens often enough on this forum to warrant a special notice. Perhaps we could ask Helen (Foster) to change the HotPot forum description if we start getting lots of faulty HTML files.
regards
Gordon
Dear Gordon and Stan,
I am mortified to have wasted your time: as you can see, I do not have an understanding of the mechanics of Hot Potatoes and since my files had worked previously, I had no idea there was anything wrong.
Thank you very much for your patient guidance.
Susanna
Dear Susanna,
please don't feel bad on my account. I enjoyed experencing and learning about the Virtual Pagination add-on. It's neat, and I am glad that your file works now.
I hope you continue to post questions and comments freely in this forum, and I hope you will help and support others when they come here, as we all do, to confer with our fellow Moodlers.
best regards
Gordon
Gordon,
Thank you very much for your encouragement: my students get great benefit from the HotPot module, so I would like to continue making progress with it.
I haven't as yet managed to get the Virtual Pagination exercise to work. When I upload your file, I get this message:
Could not insert submission form
When I upload my amended html file, the content is altered by Moodle so as to remove the part referring to check and hint buttons. (See below.)
In fact, none of my JCloze exercises work now, since the update, I think. The 'clue' buttons are also ineffective. Do we have a HotPot module problem?
Thanks again,
My file contains this:
<!-- pagination END-->
<!-- BeginBottomNavButtons -->
</div>
</form>
</div>
<button id="CheckButton2" class="FuncButton" onmouseover="FuncBtnOver(this)" onfocus="FuncBtnOver(this)" onmouseout="FuncBtnOut(this)" onblur="FuncBtnOut(this)" onmousedown="FuncBtnDown(this)" onmouseup="FuncBtnOut(this)" onclick="CheckAnswers()"> Check<
span class="entity"> </button>
<button class="FuncButton" onmouseover="FuncBtnOver(this)" onfocus="FuncBtnOver(this)" onmouseout="FuncBtnOut(this)" onblur="FuncBtnOut(this)" onmousedown="FuncBtnDown(this)" onmouseup="FuncBtnOut(this)" onclick="ShowHint()"> Hint </
button>
</div>
</div>
<div class="Feedback" id="FeedbackDiv">
<div class="FeedbackText" id="FeedbackContent"></div>
<button id="FeedbackOKButton" class="FuncButton" onfocus="FuncBtnOver(this)" onblur="FuncBtnOut(this)" onmouseover="FuncBtnOver(this)" onmouseout="FuncBtnOut(this)" onmousedown="FuncBtnDown(this)" onmouseup="FuncBtnOut(this)" onclick="HideFeedback(); return false;"> OK </button>
</div>
Once in Moodle, the above section is replaced by this:
<!-- pagination END-->
<form id="store" autocomplete="off" method="post" action="http://moodle.enib.fr/mod/hotpot/submit.php">
<fieldset style="display:none">
<input type="hidden" name="id" value="7949" />
<input type="hidden" name="mark" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="detail" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="status" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="starttime" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="endtime" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="redirect" value="0" />
</fieldset>
<div>
</div>
</form>
Hi Susanna,
could you try creating a brand new HotPot activity on your Moodle site and use the modified file I attached to one of my earlier posts in this thread:
If that gives an error, then please update your HotPot module
If you still get an error, well, I don't think you will ... so now try adding a new HotPot with one of your own Vert. Pag. files that has been validated by an online validator tool, and let me know what happens
regards
Gordon
Hi Gordon,
I followed your instructions, without success. My Administrator got your file working by adding:
<!-- BeginSubmissionForm -->
<!-- EndSubmissionForm -->
When she removed the comments <!-- BeginBottomNavButtons --> and <!-- EndBottomNavButtons --> from my (corrected) html file, it also works in Moodle.
Strange, perhaps.
Susanna
Great - thanks for confirming Susanna
I suggest you make a corresponding modification to the "source" files (templates?) which you used to generate your Vert. Pag. file, so that all your future exercises will work without requiring any manual modification on your part.
best regards
Gordon
Hi Susanna,
Reading Gordon's reply now I realize my message must have sounded too harsh. Apologies for that. It's just me. I always get to the crux of a problem and always forget to add that extra pinch of politeness.
Cheers
Stan
