It'll be fairly casual but for starters I thought we could talk about:
- the Future roadmap and especially the targets for 1.6, 1.7 and 2.0 (see the jottings in the recently updated Futures page).
- My round-the-world trip coming up in June (so maybe we can line up some meetings).
- Moodle.org development
If you have other suggestions (things you want to discuss, or short demos using screen-sharing, etc) please post them here or tell me so I can make up a firmer agenda. I'm guessing we might go for two hours.
This is for people who have CVS write access ONLY, sorry. We'll probably use Bryan's Elluminate room again - I'll provide some login details here closer to the time.
Do you have an itinerary for your 'World Tour'? (Perhaps you should think of a rock-star-esque name for it )
However, maybe that's ok for this event. Just wanted to be sure you knew...
We could also discuss the separation of DMS from activity files as described here.
But I don't know if I will be able to make to a conference on Memorial day, we had planned to be out of town.
It's a bummer that one of Perth,NZ,Europe,US is always in early morning ... makes it impossible to find a time to suit everyone well. I'll move it forward an hour - 1am is not so bad then.
If you want to test the connection and download the client, the URL we'll be using is this:
I'll stock up on coffee and be there. Or here. Or whatever. ;)
BTW, this elluminate thingamagig is weird. It has crashed, at least on my mac, after passing all its internal validation tests.
This is Mac OSX 1.3.9. Moz, Firefox and Safari all boostrap the fancy splash screen alright. It does some self-checks and whatnot, and it starts loading its modules... and hangs in "Installing Whiteboard Module".
Went through the notes, which describe a different problem. Did the Java upgrade fix dance. I've been looking at the Java Web Start settings, and general Java applet and program execution options, trying to get some debug output.
I nuked the cache JWS (is it a pun on Jaws?) but to no avail. Elluminate still dies at the whiteboard startup. Grrr.
I sent them mine, which always complains about libvClassAudio.jnilib not being a proper Mach-O library. Ahh, the wonders of wussy platform independent languages... of course they aren't macho enough for my Mac.
I fixed my problem with help from their support team. But you won't like the fix when you hear it.
If you have NeoOffice/J, any version, in your HD, Elluminate finds it, and makes a full copy or it in /tmp -- the standard NeoOffice/J install has some odd unix permissions, so the copy, which is preserving permissions, locks up not able to write to the newly created directories.
Searching for Elluminate NeoOffice leads here
The instructions from their support team were:
There are two possible solutions, both of which are temporary until Elluminate Live!'s code can be adjusted with our next release. Try the second solution should the first one fail.
- Run a Command in a Terminal Window
Type the following command into a Terminal Window and then restart your computer. Please note that you must be an administrator of the computer, and have a non-blank password in order to use the sudo command:
sudo chmod -R u+w /Applications/NeoOfficeJ.app
Note that if NeoOffice/J is not installed in /Applications, the > path will vary. Also note that the command is run using sudo, which grants root permission for carrying out this task. This requires that you have administrator privileges, and you will be authenticated by sudo before the command is run. The command will add write permission to every file and directory in the NeoOffice/J bundle, but only for the owning user (which is root in this case), so the change should be safe.
Upon running this command, your computer must be restarted or alternatively you can run the command sudo rm -rf /private/tmp/*/TemporaryItems/NeoOfficeJ.app each time you join an Elluminate Live! session.
- Uninstall NeoOffice/J.
If you uninstall NeoOffice/J, you will have no further difficulty joining an Elluminate Live! session.
After doing this (edit: chmod'ing! -- shame on you for thinking I'd remove NeoOffice), Elluminate takes about 2 minutes to get through the "Installing Whiteboard" stage, because it is still making a full copy of NeoOffice/J (~360MB). Oddly, it doesn't copy anything else.
To add insult to injury, NeoOffice doesn't get removed when Elluminate is closed.
This is wierd. Who are these guys and why do they make a copy of NeoOffice?
I can't imagine why they'd be making a copy of NeoOffice, either. Something is seriously broken.
No lockup with their configuration room here. No inordinate startup delay.
Elluminate Academic Version 6.0.
Mac OS X 10.4 (8A428)
NeoOffice/J 1.1 Release Candidate (somewhat outdated, I believe)
java -version produces:
java version "1.4.2_07"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_07-215)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-50, mixed mode)
No NeoOffice anywhere in the /private/tmp subtree.
Something really, really weird is going on, to be sure.
I'll be out all the next week.
Everything seems to work fine.
I was thinking about updating, but giving the turmoil
around 10.3.9 changing Java, and not quite ready to
do 10.4, I'm planning to stay at this version for another week.
i dloaded and patched from apple system update... it works... i tested applications and frameworks... all ok!.
The only app i can't resurrect is Xnap....?....
Anyway apache php perl and safaritoo seems really OK!.
I sincerely meant that I wasn't aware of any coding you'd done, and I was pointing out that we already do have a repository exactly like the one you suggested. If you want access to it so you can store your code there please send me your SF username.
I'll be there too.
_ I offer to show some Moodle designs that make use of the Moodle 1.5 theme features and talk about the advantages. (max. 10 min.)
_ I would like to talk about the future steps to separate the content layer, the presentation layer and the interaction layer in Moodle. With Moodle 1.5 we made a first step, some more should follow.
Are you interested?
Martin, I tried to find out how to prepare a little presentation and load it into the whiteboard. Every time I call "Load/Whiteboard" I get the error message "No Screens selected to import to, or no create access." Can only moderators load presentations? If so could you please give me moderator access to Elluminate that I can prepare my stuff.
I tried the application sharing. It works, but I am not very content with the delay and the quite small screen.
So if possible I would prefer to try the whiteboard, also because I and others are able to draw and to point on the pictures.
This is correct.
I have worried in the past that templates have become a buzzword for curing all manner of problems - I wonder if everybody has a clear understanding of what they are intended to achieve and what they can achieve (me included). I'm equally concerned about overcomplicating things - my model here is the Java based project frameworks like Struts. Great idea, but almost impossible to get the job done due to the massive learning curve and multiple layers of complexity.
No Runtime Templating!
PHP is a templating system, we don't need another one
Ok, sometimes you might, but don't do it at runtime
I am going to try to be there
There is a new script in admin/dbperformance.php which you might find useful.
You can turn SQL call logging on by editing config.php and adding
$CFG->logsql = true;