I am in the unfortunate position of having to oversee an integration of Moodle with Sharepoint. The latest version of documentation I have seen is from 2007, is there anything more recent? I have looked at the tips given by Adam Pierce, handy things to know, but is there a close integration planned?
I've no idea Colin but I just tweeted your question with a link to this thread in the hope some Sharepoint tweeting Moodlers might have some advice.
Thanks Mary, I just keep getting links to Adam's site and Moodle. I went to SharePoint's site, but that has not had any updating on the Moodle plugins since 2007 and lists v1.6 as part of its attractiveness to Moodle users... mmmmm!!!!
Colin, check out this:
Just over a week old. I'm going to bite my tongue at this point. I work with some people who may want Moodle to talk to Sharepoint.
PS, I think it is Alex Pearce, unless there are two people.
if 2013 is the SP's target version, checkout my Moodle CMIS repository at https://github.com/scara/moodle-repository_cmis: I'll test my supporting SP 2013 in the next weeks.
Derek's video is really interesting, if you want to use one of the new features coming with SP 2013: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/fp179930.aspx.
- "Using Moodle with Sharepoint or Alfresco" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=203440
- "From Sharepoint to Moodle using SSO" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=221448
- "SharePoint 2010 & Moodle 2 Integration" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=176000
- "Re: Repositories and File management in 2.0 – WebDAV, Alfresco and SharePoint" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=174702&parent=800310
The "Repositories" forum seems to be the no. 1 address.
Thanks Derek, very interesting approach, went to their web site and lots of promise and am going to follow that one up.
Matteo, thank you for something that is useful, however, I do not know what version has been installed yet.
Hi Visvanath, I had already gone over these, but thanks anyway. It seems that Sharepoint can be used as a simple repository and not be really active itself. What Matteo has given me shows that it can be a lot more than that, with SSO, and now the promising development opportunities. This may or may not be a great tool, but I am ultra-suspicious, it does come from the Dark Side. It is a tool designed as a commercial product being used out of that context and consequently may prove unsuitable for an education environment.
We have 13 weeks before it is supposed to go live so it may be the latest. I have not had a chance to talk to anyone yet about it, being drafted in just recently, so have zero input so far - and the administrator is having a week off so I cannot even ask questions. (The other people I ask just say, "Ask him" or "That's his job." so I am not getting a lot.) For the moment, this is an exercise in learning what questions I can ask without making myself look like a complete twit... That for the help, it is really appreciated.
Anyone else is want to join in.. all opinions and ideas are quite welcome...
I originally posted this on another forum here on Moodle.org, but would like first to say that Sharepoint would be very interesting to us as a university of applied sciences, not least because we are a centre of excellence for Microsoft.
If Sharepoint could work as I have outlined in my post below, we certainly would be very interested to work with it.
Do I understand that if SP is used as a repository with Moodle, this means that the files are dynamically available in Moodle? One problem that has always existed with Moodle is that when files are stored in Moodle, updated versions of those files stored outside of Moodle are not reflected in Moodle itself. The only way I knew of to make them dynamically available was by storing them on a FTP server, and then using the URL/file link function. However, this means creating a link for every file.
Further, at our University, it calls into question file security. However, if I understand you all correctly, SharePoint gets round this by creating a secure repository which dynamically links the files to Moodle: Am I right in this understanding?
Why would we want to do all this? Well we currently have a script server where lecturers store files for students to copy to their PCs. Our aim is to scrap this system in favour of using Moodle as both a script server and course administrator. However, this is not very practical when each time you want to update files you have to do it one by one, deleting and replacing them. By having a file repository outside of Moodle, this process could be done far more effectively.
This is exactly what I want as well, Paul. Have you found any additional info since posting this?
No Alice, only what has been posted here, but we are well attached to SharePoint, and since the investment there is high, it's likely to take priority over any other issue.
Well, I am sorry I didn't get back to people on this, but... in the end....
1. The project was abandoned before implementation. "Too risky", too expensive, we don't have sufficient skill base to do it.
2. The secondary option of using Open Source was deemed "inequitable". It seems that the question of "How can we ensure that everyone has access to Word?" and the answer being "We don't, but we don't care. There is Open Office, LibreOffice we can distribute ourselves, free of costs, free of licensing, free of sales tax, as Open Source software." wasn't the right answer. Appears the "learning curve is too steep".
3. "We will lose control over what students are doing online." Well duh! Don't these people ever watch Jurassic Park? "Control is an illusion!" did not go down well, and of course, what they decided to do went wrong, was even more expensive, but, I got it wrong and everyone else was right, so it seems.
I re-learned a valuable lesson from this, it doesn't matter what is right or wrong, it is the person who foots the bill that needs to be placated.
Having said that, I learned enough about SharePoint to realize that it can do some wonderful things. I also learned that it is not the product that counts, it is the fact that schools are brand capturing for the Dark Side. Schools are recruiting for future MCSE's and so on. I could say a lot more, but that would not be in keeping with the intent of this post.
Has this progressed regards SP and Moodle?
I am urgently needing an elegant solution that links my CMS (SharePoint (Office 365). Supplying tools such as versioning, check in, etc. To my LMS Moodle
Essentially I have 2 separate serves, 1 for SP and 1 for Moodle. I would like to update content on SP and have that new version made available to the Moodle course dynamically
If this is not available I think I may have to go down the Moodle on SP route
Perhaps even look into Moodle hosted on Windows Azure in the Cloud.
I assumed that you have bookmarked the "'Using Moodle' advanced search".
No, since the subject of SharePoint and Moodle is scattered in many forums I thought it would be useful to have the informative discussions in one place.
Yes, there are two topics: SharePoint as a Moodle repository and Moodle-SharePoint-SSO. I agree, SSO could backfire but a repository could be useful for people who have SharePoint "anyway".
I received an enquiry about the latter. Based of the information available at that time said No. (Thank God it was not an order!) Still I am interested on how the SharePoint Moodle integration goes.
There are a whole range of issues around how we are going to be using the available platforms, the hardware, the software and the user's hardware. Essentially, we are going to a BYOD strategy, (I know, flaws and benefits but swings and roundabouts too) and we have to look at our services. Unfortunately, we have a few bottlenecks in the system so I am proposing is that we fix each bottleneck up to the point where there is no internal bottleneck at all. This implies three things, the remaining bottlenecks are all outside our control, which they will be anyway, that our LAN is the best, most efficient LAN we can develop for the funding we have, but it also means we need an intranet server that acts as out internet gateway, that we have Moodle, Mahara, Wikimedia, WordPress (or equivalents) internally that we can construct our learning environment as we want it. So it is not just Moodle, it is all those other things as well. So will let you know how we are getting on.
I am suspicious that the enviroment we construct will have some serious flaws, incompatibility issues, most of them coming from the proprietal software we are going to be using, the Server OS and Sharepoint, being unable to adequately deal with the demands of the open source software. It should be a snap... but I suspect that the manufacturers do not want open source to be used at all, so do not make it easy - or perhaps more accurately, don't want to waste their resources making sure compatibility issues do not arise.
I was wondering if anyone has sucessfully used sharepoint as a repository for moodle. We would certainly love to be able to.
Hi! Any updates on how Moodle can work with SharePoint 2013?
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