For language teaching verbal communication is crucial for listening and speaking activities , can verbal communication be a real part of Moodle where we done not need to add another program which may require some approval from management ?
Just a note that, while others might think Simon is being funny, there really is a Face-To-Face module, and it has some handy features.
Yes I was being serious (For a change) I'm not sure what the original poster is looking for.
The maintainer of Face-To-Face sits 3 metres from me, it is indeed a popular and useful module and perhaps what the OP is looking for.
Yep, the face-to-face module is very handy indeed!
Not sure what you mean so...
Moodle is written in PHP which isn't suitable for directly implementing voice over internet protocol (VoIP) or web conferencing. For that you need either a Java media server, e.g. Red5, or Flash Media Server (as used by Youtube), or all users/participants need to have a VoIP client installed on their computers, e.g. Jabber, Skype, or GoogleTalk.
If you only want to record and playback audio, then there are some Java and Flash client based plugins for Moodle that do it well, e.g.:
http://gong.ust.hk/nanogong/ (Java client)
If you want real time online conferencing, classrooms, face to face, etc., this is beyond the capabilities of Moodle and requires some 3rd party software or services that integrate with Moodle, e.g.:
I hope this helps!
This looks promising: Video Anywhere in Moodle.
I particularly liked the crowd-funding idea. So much so, I even contributed.
By the way, this is being programmed by Justin Hunt, a brilliant Kiwi EFL teacher who built PoodLL.
And Alan, don't expect Moodle to ever have built in audio or video recording. The core developers have said that this should be an added plugin, and they are making Moodle so that plugins work easier and more troublefree. That means convincing "management" that plugins are a good thing.
And, I just got an email that the crowdsourcing had met the goal, so my beta version is now in my inbox.
Don, if you're the one who put Video Anywhere in Moodle over the top, my thanks!
Re: multimedia in general, I think there's a danger of ending up with a situation where organisations who are looking for an LMS as a platform for multimedia consider Moodle unsuitable and look to other LMS' and so those who do use Moodle and would like better support for multimedia a fewer and therefore have a smaller voice. Then Moodle HQ can interpret that as multimedia support is of insufficient demand or interest.
Moodle 2.x already excludes uploading sequence multimedia into the files directory API. It's a real headache if you want to deploy Flash, Java, or HTML5 sequenced media, e.g. https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=207612 It has little to do with whether a sequence requires plugins or not -- Plugins like Flash, Java, Quicktime, etc. are not the issue. In each case, it looks like someone needs to develop a new Moodle plugin or use an external 3rd party file repository to deploy multiple multimedia files, something that other LMS' and CMS' have no problems with.
Re: plugins and filters, look at how the basic media filters work: They indiscriminately filter every URL that's posted sitewide. They're either on or off. It's like having a car with two speed controls -- Stop & Full speed... or perhaps that's how they drive in Perth, I don't know :P
Can't we learn from other media filter implementations in other software? Perhaps reach for something a little more subtle, controllable, user friendly, and useful?
Can you suggest some other media filter implementations to learn from?
For starters, any of the popular PHP bulletin boards and discussion forum software that use BB codes.
Matt, could you be more specific about which PHP bulleting boards would be good to look at. There are quite a few out there.
Ahh yes, I used Wordpress it as the tool that some of my students delivered their projects on this year. After trying to teach them MS access for the last 8 years or so it has been rather wonderful.
I wasn't looking at its media support with my developer hat on but it both its built in and plugin support did seem very nice. I will take a closer look. Thanks Matt.
Yes, i think Wordpress has a particularly short learning curve and users tend to take to it pretty quickly. I used a Wordpress network (multiple blogs from one code base) as the platform for an EFL summer school project since the learners had very little time to learn to use it: http://wp.matbury.com/about/
There is no problem uploading multiple lined files into one file area. See http://docs.moodle.org/23/en/File_resource_settings#Displaying_a_website_index_page for an outline. (Do we have better docs than this for how to do this? that summary is rather brief.)
Actually I know what Matt means. In Moodle 1.9.x it used to be very easy to point an audio player at a directory of files to play in sequence. We did the same thing for video files, and flashcard images in PoodLL. I tried a number of ways to acheive the same thing in Moodle 2.x Ultimately I just fudged and now require people who want 1.9 style lists of audio/video/image files to use a designated directory under the moodle program directory. Far from a perfect solution.
If you have a dedicated mod, you could use multiple resources associated with a single file area for your mod. I think that is what Tim was saying. But if you are trying to access the files say from an audio player via a filter, you are in trouble.
I don't think it is a deal breaker though. And I prefer the plugin model to the stuffing more and more into core. So I am not too far from HQ on this. But Moodle could do a bit more to accomodate multimedia plugins than they do now. I better not elaborate here though, we are already far from the original posters question.
Justin "But Moodle could do a bit more to accomodate multimedia plugins than they do now."
Yes, an essential part of developing sequenced multimedia is being able to predict what the URL is going to be, e.g. in Moodle 1.9 it was always $CFG->wwwroot.'/file.php/[course id]/[mymedia]/[subfolder]/etc... so you could configure the URLs in the XML, SMIL, TimedText, and/or MPEG-7 files (all W3C standards, BTW) and they'd work on any Moodle without editing.*
And what if you need to edit or substitute one or more of the media files but keep the directory structure intact so the URLs don't break? Imagine if everytime you installed Moodle, the directory structure changed unpredictably and all the links broke. Not much use, is it?
* Sure, you can do search and replace but if you show an XML file to a teacher or curriculum developer, they'll stare back at you blankly or with a pained expression on their face. It's as good as prohibiting them from participating in developing learning resources and activities in Moodle: One of the major obstacles in elearning is that not enough people who are knowledgeable about human beings and how they learn participate and IT folks, while they're great with code, algorithms, patterns, and systems, tend to produce dreadful elearning resources. I actually get a lot of work from being the guy who brings together the IT side with the curriculum development side and all these "idiosyncrasies" make for lots of repeat business so perhaps I should shutup and let the money keep rolling in ;)
"I actually get a lot of work from being the guy who brings together the IT side with the curriculum development side and all these "idiosyncrasies" make for lots of repeat business so perhaps I should shutup and let the money keep rolling in ;)"
In some respects Matt you have expressed what I sometimes feel. Are the people voting on which new issues, improvements, priorities (etc) they want in Moodle really happy with some of the status quo (and so don't vote for other issues) because it means they have more to do, and it's less easy for the basic admin/teacher to do it themselves or makes an organisation more dependant on a consultant/provider. I don't feel this all the time. Just sometimes.
We've sure deviated from verbal communication.