Future major features

Activity Grading Interface

Tim at Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary
Re: Activity Grading Interface
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Moodlerooms is proposing a whole lot of stuff to throw into Moodle, and it is starting to feel like a Denial of Service attack on the communities ability to review and comment on proposals.

Can't you just concentrate on getting the things that are already being discussed in to Moodle 2.6. Then, when that is done, come back with more.

In the mean time, publish stuff in the plugins database. Really, I think that wherever possible, things should not be added to Moodle core until they have baked in the plugins database for a while.

Also, when did you last give some valuable input into someone else's proposal. If you want to be part of the community, you should not expect it to be all one way.

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Re: Activity Grading Interface
Core developers

I am sorry you feel that our suggested improvements are a denial of service attack. It is not our intention, our intention is to be a good open source community member and improve Moodle for all.

The activity grader has been fully baked, we have had clients using it for 1.5 years and have modified it and updated it in several ways based on their input. It is our opinion that it is to the point where the only positive progression forward is the inclusion of more activities within it. When it comes to inclusion of more activities we have 2 options:

1. Continue how we have and hack parts of core Moodle to add activity support and maintain these hacks as the core activities are modified.

2. Ask that Moodle and the community to consider the inclusion of an activity grading interface and work with the community towards consolidating activity grading.

We could release this interface to the community via the plugins but then that would require community members to maintain core hacks. We want to be good citizens and so we try to stay away from releasing features that require core modifications.

On your point about commenting on other's specifications, I believe we have participated in many ways. I have commented on several of the tickets in the tracker on requested features, we have provided accessibility feedback on several tickets and our developers have reviewed several specifications for suggested features. If there is something specific you would like comments on I would be happy to review it and give feedback.

There is nothing about this specification that requires it be in Moodle 2.6, we would definitely think the community would benefit most if it was in 2.6. The interface already works, as I said it has been used for 1.5 years. We can demo it now, in fact anyone can test it out on our public demo site at http://demo2k12.moodlerooms.com/. We plan to complete the lions share of the work that needs to be done to complete the inclusion into core.

We are more than happy maintaining it as a proprietary feature of our product or considering its release as a plugin that requires core modifications and updates with each Moodle release. The reactions to the interface we have received at Moots, from prospects, and our clients though pushed us to request that the feature be added to Moodle and not released as a plugin.

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Re: Activity Grading Interface

Jason, and MoodleRooms,

Thank you for developing and offering your Activity Grading Interface to the Moodle core. It looks great and I'm excited to see it included in some future version of Moodle.



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Martin Dougiamas
Re: Activity Grading Interface
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Agreed that they are working on a lot right now, but not sure that whinge is warranted here.

It's a good thing that Moodlerooms are releasing all this stuff that they've been working on for some time and they are going about it exactly the right way, so I thank them 100%.   I've been more aware of all that stuff for quite some time so it's less surprise to me.

The decision on whether and when anything gets into core or not ultimately lies with Moodle HQ, if we have a backlog then we have a backlog (and we have a backlog already).

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