Pretty please? Sugar on top?
what a nice way to make a request
I don't think I am authorized to decide whether or not "the v2 version be committed to /contrib/hotpot". In fact, I don't fully understand the question. Sorry. Probably Tom Robb will know what you are talking about and be able to give the definitive answer.
If it were up to me, I would make a new branch for "HotPot v2", so that the original HotPot is still available.
regarding upgrading to "HotPot v2", Martin-D has asked us to "confirm to me that it can upgrade itself cleanly".
I'd like to invite anyone who has successfully upgraded from the original HotPot module to "HotPot v2" to add a short message to this thread, telling us how it went.
I'll go first:
I successfully upgraded from HotPot to "HotPot v2"
Upgraded both local and shared server ; no problems.
Thanks all for your great work!
Dear Martin D.,
as you may have seen, there have been messages from 5 of the most active members on this forum confirming successful upgrades from HotPot to "HotPot v2", on both local and shared servers. Is that enough to give you confidence to consider opening a new CVS branch for "HotPot v2" and giving me write access to keep it up to date?
I have created a sourceforge.com account and written to you offlist to request write privileges for the HotPot branch of the CVS. (Initially, there was a slight delay as my anti-spam sytem thought your anti-spam system was trying to spam me )
If you have not received the private message I sent containing my sourceforge username, I would be happy to resend it, otherwise I will wait patiently for your decision.
Is there any way to make the availability of the HotPotv2 module more evident on this list? I would like to join the list of people who have successfully installed/migrated to the new module but can't seem to find a download link that works.
Could you let me know where I could download the latest version of the module?
I was reorganizing my server over the weekend, so the "HotPot v2" module was not available for download. Sorry about that. The server's back up now though.
You can download "HotPot v2" from the following URL:
This URL is pretty permanent and supercedes all previous URLs I have posted.
Hope the upgrade goes well. At the risk or repeating myself, please be sure to backup your entire Moodle database before attempting the update
Looking forward to hearing how you get on.
I'm not sure if it'll be in the packages, but those using CVS can just update and they'll get it.
I can't see how this could be compatible with Quiz, but I've not looked into it very deeply at all.
Gordon, can you answer this?
As Martin D. points out, one structural reason that HotPot quizzes need their own module is because they can be uploaded to Moodle as HTML files. It would be tricky to parse these and extract the original questions and answers (but not impossible I suppose).
Another problem is that there is no Moodle equivalent of the "crossword" or "hybrid" questions in Hot Potatoes. These would have to be simplified to current quiz module question types, or we would need more database fields and tables to store the extra settings.
Even quiz types which appear to be the same, such as the multiple choice questions and cloze exercises, have different optional settings, so these would have to added to the quiz module, or lost.
For me the biggest reason for allowing the HotPot module to exist is because there are alot of teachers who use Hot Potatoes quizzes and are looking for the next step. They want someway to look at the responses the students gave to the questions. They don't want to type in the questions again, or import the questions one by one through their browser. The are relatively newcomers to CAI and are looking to add the quiz, as it is, to an online course with a few clicks, and then wait for the results to role in. The HotPot module offers these teachers an easy route into Moodle, and once they are here, other wonders unfold.
Both Tom and Gordon are correct when they say that being able to record the results from HotPot activities is extremely useful to teachers. I know that there are other ways of doing this, but simply uploading into Moodle makes it something anyone can do.
it works fine. I only have one wish: that moodle can also use external hotpotatoes for recording the results. There are so much pretty things.
nice greetings from austria