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Re: What are the possible strategies for choosing my Moodle version ?
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Hi Vouty,

I understand the chart you are talking about, but the problem is the only charts available are inaccurate anyway. The changes to Moodle are too rapid now to be described in such a manner. The overall core does not change that much, but other elements, like 3rd Party plugins are extending the usefulness of Moodle all the time. Also, the only charts like that I have seen are done by other organizations promoting their own product, which, of course, are completely accurate and unbiased.

-would it be a good idea for my next installations to test Moodle 1.9.19+ and after Moodle 2.3.3+ ?

_ Is it possible to transfert my course from version 1.9.19 tp 2.3.3 easily ? are there some restrictions or incompatibilities ?

If I am reading this first part right, you have a v2.3.3+ and you want to step down? No, why step backwards, there is no more support for v1.9.x not even security updates. (I think Dan Marsden's support ended December, time to move on.) There are too many differences to be a valid test. If you mean you have a v1.9.19+ and you want to restore courses to a v2.3.3+ then yes, that can happen, easily now, but no user data, which you probably do not have, just the course materials. 

_ Is my dedicated small computer compatible for these versions and only for one user ? do I have to make some tuning (parameters on blocks ....) to decrease quantity/size of html files to generate ? Is it appropriate to install an html accelerator ?

Now you have lost me... Are we talking an enterprise Moodle or a standalone personal Moodle? A production Moodle can have a few users or like the OU, 250,000+ users. My test Moodles have 5 users each and I am all of them. Each user had a different role in different contexts, which can be annoying sometimes to be switching beetween the two computers I use - but it does give me some exercise..smile 

Never used an accelerator, but might be useful. The OS you are using is pretty much irrelevant to Moodle, as long as you have some understanding of how it works, stores things, security (or any facsimile thereof), and such, you can use Moodle anywhere you can create a server. The laptop is good, plenty of RAM, disc space, but unless you allow external access, and are using a fixed IP address for it, it is probably not useful for a general server. Having said that, yes, I have done precisely that, but the laptop was not turned off and did have a fixed IP and was rebooted every Sunday after backing up the week's data overnight - smallish country school, internal Moodle very interesting experiment.  Not sure what else I can say here.  

 
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Re: What are the possible strategies for choosing my Moodle version ?
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Colin,

You said:
> why step backwards, there is no more support for v1.9.x not even security updates. (I think Dan Marsden's support ended December, time to move on.)

How do you say: The dead live longer?
"Bug fixes for serious security issues in 1.9.x by Moodle HQ ended June 2012 (4.5 years).
Bug fixes for serious security issues in 1.9.x by Catalyst IT will continue until Dec 2013 (6 years)."
http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Releases.

Who does what is not exactly clear to me, see https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=218503&parent=953883, point 2. Main thing is Dec 2013 (not 2012)!
 
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Re: What are the possible strategies for choosing my Moodle version ?
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My apologies, it was my understanding that Dan, via Catalyst, could only continue to support to the end of 2012, but if they can keep going to the end of 2013, then Catalyst is certainly being more generous than I would have expected.

However, the basic point is the same, I cannot see any valid reason to start, or continue, with a v1.9.19++++++ if a v2.x is available. There is also another issue to be considered, I am not sure what direction the Roadmap will take, nor can any of us be certain that the mechanisms for upgrading a v1.9.19++++++ to a, say, a v2.7.2 in May of 2014, will continue to provide that support. They should, but we cannot be certain. There may, of necessity, be an upgrade path where an interim version needs to be maintained. We should be encouraging people to upgrade to v2, and not, I suggest, waste their time on a v1.9.x. There is nothing in v1.9.x core that is not replicated or "improved" in v2. There is a great many features in v2 core that can be well utilised that cannot be a part of v1.9.x. Now there are a number of exciting new plugins for v2 that have not been designed or written for v1.9.x. 

Don't get me wrong, I loved my v1.9s, and now the initial angst has passed about v2, can appreciate some of the strengths of the new versions. Still think it is ugly and needs a redesign, which I understand is beginning to happen, and think it needs to be more flexible when integrating other PHP apps, and now learning that there is an enterprise need for student management and enterprise facilities functionality, which could be developed as a new product that can be integrated, or plugged in easily, so to speak. But these are separate issues.

The basic point is still the same, v1.9.19+++++ will no longer be a contemporary tool.          

 
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