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Installation Problem -- Intermittent "Dataroot location is not secure"

Just wondering . . .
Re: Installation Problem -- Intermittent "Dataroot location is not secure"

I stumbled on this thread.

I don't even understand Ken's rant.  (Unusual Ken!!)  I thought Linux was good.

Rick, I often think (and with a few others of you as well, like Frankie) why there is no economy of scale here.  A few of you manage several server each of identical specs.  Find a couple of insititutions down the road and hook up with them.

Or in your case (Rick), sell off 50 courses?  Use up the rest of a server.  smile

It's like you've gone to all this trouble to get a system that works.  Then leverege it.  ??

Merely musing.

To whom server build/run is more like the deep unknown, but knows it must be rational, even though it is more an art form than a hard science but often wonders why it is so hard.  Why not just set it up like this how it works nice and be done with it?



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[OT] Unix (Linux, *BSD, ...) or Windows? GoDaddy: go or no go?
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Good for one is bad for another. So let's have some subjective arguments!

The same with GoDaddy. First can somebody explain to me, how GoDaddy attracts people like flies?
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Re: [OT] Unix (Linux, *BSD, ...) or Windows? GoDaddy: go or no go?
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I'll jump back into this discussion at this point, but make some comments to several posts that have occurred from my last post.

I prefer the Linux VDS because that's what Moodle is developed on.  I have always had a Linux server (both hosted and virtual) with GoDaddy, and they works fine and are very reliable.  Since I have not had their Windows products, I can really make a fair comparison.

Visvanath, I think GoDaddy attracts people for several reasons: 1) price, 2) performance, 3) reliability, and 4) support.  Yes, there are alternatives.  Some of these alternatives will provide more hand-holding than GoDaddy will.  But GoDaddy does provide a very stable platform.  GoDaddy, especially when you move up from a hosted to a virtual server, expects you to do more on your own.  Have you had any good experiences with other inexpensive hosting companies?  I see that some people have tried using 1&, for example.

Hal, yes, the cost difference is significant (from $6 to $50 or so a month).  I too am somewhat of a freelancer with Moodle.  My school provides Blackboard, so everything that I do with Moodle is on my own.  But using Moodle on your own might provide you the opportunity to offer school both your content and your own CMS - the school doesn't need to provide you any IT support (once you get good at this stuff, of course).

I was once considering moving away from GoDaddy, and came across a company called  Right now, I have one of their $5/month hosted accounts, which I primarily use to hold all of my videos (they say unlimited storage.)  They claim to know Moodle.  When I purchased their hosted service, I asked them to install current versions of PHP and mySQL, and they did!  GoDaddy, by comparison, won't do this.  I like to install original copies of Moodle on this account, just so that I can see what each version looks like.  I can do this!  For example, I just installed the latest Moodle 2.4 yesterday (click here).  I don't use any auto-install scripts anymore, I do this from scratch and it only takes around 15 minutes.  TMDHosting would never recommend running Moodle on their hosted account (they too want you to buy their Virtual Server), however, for a small site, or to learn, this could be fine (in my opinion).  By the way, I am an "affiliate" with TMDHosting, so if you use my last name when buying, you can get a little discount (I think).  Most server companies try to promote their products like this, and I am not in any way associated with TMDHosting, I just said "sure, make me an affiliate).  Over the last year, I have done some experimenting with TMDHosting and they have provided some great support (all via tickets, no phone support).

I agree with Ken, you want to be able to run the latest versions of Moodle.  Probably this weekend I will upgrade my production Moodle, which is on my GoDaddy VDS, to Moodle 2.4.  I am waiting form my courses to end tomorrow.  I am a little conservative about when I decide to upgrade.  I typically upgrade two or three times a semester.

GoDaddy says that they provide the latest versions for WordPress because of some special arrangement that they have with WordPress.  They said that no one from the Moodle organization has set up this arrangement with them, yet.

Hal, I have found the learning curve a welcome challenge.

Derek, if I wanted to, I could probably host Moodle courses and even make a little money doing this.  What stops me is that then I would have to really be a Moodle/UNIX administrator, which I am not (I am a professor.)   Instead, I enjoy simply sharing my knowledge about Moodle whenever I can.  I am always available as a consultant, when needed.  But only for small sites with installation requests.  For installations at larger schools, they would need to go elsewhere. I would be willing to consult with Moodle specific needs.  And I have even thought about writing a book about Moodle (when I find time).

I hope that you find some of this information useful.  I try my best to put issues into perspective.

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Re: [OT] Unix (Linux, *BSD, ...) or Windows? GoDaddy: go or no go?
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Hi Rick

Thanks for the report.

I have to admit that I'm not qualified to comment on GoDaddy as a customer - and I have no plans to be one either. No, my reservations are mostly idealogical and partly a result of the reports I see in this site. See "Go Daddy! (Where to?)"
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