I am trying to understand this - or at least, trying to get it work as I think it should. Does anyone have any pointers? I am presuming this means a teacher can have feedback files( eg in Word) zip them up and then when they upload them in the appropriate place in the 2.4 grading screen it will allocate them to the correct student - but I can't get it to do that and I wonder if am misunderstanding it?
2.4 - how to upload multiple feedback files in zip
My guess (without having had time to try it yet!) is that you need an assignment with both file submissions and feedback files enabled. Students' file submissions can then be downloaded via the 'Download all submissions' link in the settings block. The teacher can edit the files and add feedback then zip them up and upload them. As long as the teacher doesn't rename the files, I imagine when they are uploaded they'll be associated with the correct student!
Anyway, that's my guess at how this new feature in Moodle 2.4 works. Please report back on how you get on!
Thanks Helen - I will give this a go. I thought I tried this yesterday but without success but maybe Cheryl and the gang were just a bit tired -they've been working quite hard testing 2.4 recently I will give them another chance!
Ok -this is what I have tried:
- students upload a ppt as a submission
- I click "download all assignments" and get the zipped folder of their work
- I edit the ppts, zip it up again with the same name
- I click "upload multiple feedback files" and I get the message "Confirm zip upload - no changes" Nothing is changed
- So I try changing the name of the zipped folder - but still it says nothing is changed and still no feedback files appear.
Hmm.. I can upload them one at a time by selecting the person and "send feedback files" but I can't use this method for multiple uploads as it uploads both feedback files to both students - unless I am doing this wrong.
If only we had some documentation !!
Thanks Mary - this looks like a bug in the current version (the testing instructions you tried should have worked and I just got the same result on my local install). I'll raise a bug for this and try and get it fixed ASAP.
Actually - maybe not - I was testing wrong (I re-zipped the files as a tar.gz instead of a zip). It is working for me - I'll test on the QA site and report back.
Yes - it works fine on the QA site.
I'll describe how I tested here:
Step one - Create a new assignment with "File submissions" and "Feedback files" enabled.
Step two - Login as a student and upload a file submission to the assignment (I uploaded a Libre Office document).
Step three - Login as a teacher and "Download all submissions" (From the drop down menu above the grading table).
Step four - Extract all the files from the zip to a new empty folder (Should only be one)
Step five - Edit the document (I added lots of comments) and save it
Step six - Select all files in the folder and create a new zip file from them. (Do not just zip the folder)
Step seven - Choose "Upload multiple files in a zip" from the drop down menu above the grading table
Step eight - Upload the new zip file
Step nine - You should see that there is one new feedback file - click "Confirm" to save the files.
Step ten - Verify that one student received a new feedback file and it is the correct file.
Thanks Damyon - I will give this another go later today. I wonder if my stumbling blocks were your steps 4 and 6 - if I zipped this in a different way? Back later
Got it! It's all to do with how you zip them up - very important to document, so I will, after lunch
That's great Mary - the zip file you upload should basically be in the same format as the one you downloaded (you can even just add or edit files in that zip and re-upload it).
Good to know how it works. But it would also be useful if Moodle could test if the folder as been zipped, and search files there in the zip (avoiding people who zip the folder to have problems).
Cool if it can be done for 2.4, or to keep in mind for 2.4.1
Damyon, what's th eimpact of a student creating one or more folders at the submission stage?
The folders will not be recreated in the zip - you will just get a list of all the files for that student whether they were in a folder or not.
For info, also if you zip files on a mac, you may get a folder included in the zip called _MACOSX_ which needs to be removed otherwise moodle will not recognise the changes in the files.
Can individual bulk feedback be achieved WITHOUT an electronic submission being made? I know I can use the offline activity to attach feedback files individually, but I want to be able to zip and upload in bulk.
I've had a similar question for a while. In my scenario, my students submit a file, but I don't wish to add feedback to the submitted file. I wish to submit a written report (PDF) that contains my commentary on the work they've completed, and I'd prefer not to attach each PDF one at a time for each student.
For example, I have 80 students complete an assignment that requires them to submit a Microsoft Access database file. I download their submissions and review them, documenting all my notes in a grading program that's specific to that assignment. My grading program kicks out a PDF report with my summarized feedback. So, when I'm done grading I now have 80 PDFs that I'd like to ZIP and upload into Moodle as feedback files for the assignment submission. Right now, I'm uploading each of the 80 files one at a time.
I've just recently upgraded to Moodle 3.0.1.
+1 to the query from Joe Amatrucola above.
It would be very useful to be able to bulk upload feedback files that are not the original assignments. As Joe says the only option at the moment seems to be to upload the feedback files one at a time. With 80, 150 or even 300 students that is a slow process!
Does anyone know if this feature is available, being worked on or being discussed?
Many thanks & happy Moodling,
Yes, it is possible to upload a zip file with feedback for multiple students. The key is to be sure you have the naming convention sorted. Or risk giving the wrong student the wrong feedback! So most likely you will be using a word-merge or other means of generating the feedback automatically.
- Make sure your assignment has Feedback types of both Offline grading Sheet and Feedback files
- 'View All Submissions' and then Grading Action - Download Grading Worksheet.
- This csv file will have Column A - Participant Number. This number is unique to the student AND the assignment, e.g. Participant 401, And Column B - Full name, e.g. Joe Bloggs.
- Use this spreadsheet file to create the following naming convention for your feedback files. e.g. "Joe Bloggs_401_assignsubmission_file_.pdf". As far as I can tell the underscores are important!
- Zip your renamed feedback files.
- 'Grading Action - Upload multiple feedback files in a zip', drag and drop your zip file in.
- Sit back and enjoy a well earned break.
On trialling I think you may be better off putting each feedback file in its own folder per student e.g. A folder called ' Joe Bloggs_401_assignsubmission_file_' with a feedback file such as 'JoesFeedback.pdf', but I have not tested this enough to be sure.