Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Darrel Tenter -
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I'm trying to create a new role for "Registrar". It is not based on any Role archetype. This role should be able to create and manage user accounts, and manage course manual enrollments for users. I have the permissions working for managing course enrollments. I'm stuck on creating user accounts.

Logged in with my Registrar role I have access to the account creation page if I paste it directly.

http://site.com/course/user/editadvanced.php?id=-1

However I can't figure out how to make that page accessible via a link from the settings block. There I only have "Permissions" available under "Users". I feel I'm missing something in the role settings that gives access to "Advanced Features" where Users/Account/Add a new user is available to me as Admin.

Moodle 2.3.2 (Build: 20120910)

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Mary Cooch -
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Hello there. Does Moodle's default Manager role not do what you want "out of the box"?

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Darrel Tenter -

Correct. If I assign Manager role to a user then login with that user, I still don't see "Add a new user". Users becoms available within Settings, but I only get Groups and Permissions. This seems to be an Admin only function. I also don't want all of the Manager capabilities for this role. Just those related to student registrations and enrollments.

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Mary Cooch -
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I made one of my users a manager via Settings>Site administration>users>assign system roles and when I logged in as him I did have the ability to add a new user - how have you assigned your manager?

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Darrel Tenter -

I go to Settings>Site Admin>Advanced features>Permissions>Assign sytem roles

I put my test user (which has no other roles assigned to it) into Existing users.

I just had a thought though and assigned the user as Site Admin, but that still didn't add anything. So something was definitely going on with the user. I edit that account and see that its Authentication method was set to Email based self registration. I changed it to Manual and voilá, I now can manage users.

Maybe it's a security thing that self-registered users cannot create user accounts. I can see the logic there. If this is true then a self-registered user being able to navigate manually to the account creation URL seems like a security hole, even if they have been assigned to a role with sufficient permissions. I also shouldn't be able to assign roles that include these permissions to self-registered accounts.

Maybe I should post this issue to the Moodle Tracker?

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Mary Cooch -
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So you are saying that if a user signs up to your site with the email based self registration, if you then as admin add them as a manager or even a site admin, they are not able to add  new users? Whereas if their accounts were created manually , they are? I find that very odd - I will have to go off and test this out now and report back.

EDIT (Well  -that didn't take very long..) I went to demo.moodle,net and made a new account via email. Then I logged in as admin and made that account first a manager and then an admin and both times they were able to add users. So it is not a bug. I wonder if this is an issue with your site?

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Re: Access to "Add a new user" for custom role

by Darrel Tenter -

Seems like that. All I did was modify the user account's registration method from email-based to manual. If I change it back to email based then permissions are lost.

I just tried to repeat at demo.moodle.net net too, and see that it works there. Looks like I have some troubleshooting to do.

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this Mary.

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