Hello everyone. It seems that,despite the big notice "Do NOT post here asking for technical Moodle help!", people continue to do so. The Lounge is a separate course from Using Moodle, and so it's not possible to move posts to a more appropriate forum. Thus, it seems best for the Lounge forum to be moved back into Using Moodle. That way, posts asking for help can easily be moved, and we can support people more efficiently.
Like. +1 A-OK.
What happened to the Light Touch [TM] http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=200642#p878602 ?
P.S. Did you check all the technical implications, like whether discussion numbers and the references to the post (d=200642 and #p878602 above) are preserved?
Well, this seems to be progress. Maybe a drop down menu is needed for moderaters with canned reply options like RTFM, Wrong forum (moving it), What version?, Be more civil and I'll restore your account and "Can you actually read???"
@Visvaneth: Don't sweat the small stuff.
@Helen and Mary. You know about hearding cats. I do like to know a little in advance that things are happening, but I now just live with change and surprises. In general, the suprises are in the right direction. As long as the guys back at HQ are able to focus on the thing they do best.
Moodle.org forum designers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof forums, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning.(misquoted from anon)
Oh yes, this is progress. This time we hear about the move in advance. Last time about the "New forum for collaborating on new feature specs" http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=211870 we were informed _after_ after the new forum was born. I think this is cats herding cats.
No, I haven't forgotton the "sweat of the small stuff". Sorry, no progress to report yet.
The new features forum was proposed and discussed months before it was actually created. You took part in those discussions.
> The new features forum was proposed and discussed months before it was actually created.
I found there references:
- "Derek, as you point out, discussions about improvements and new features occur all over the place and it's a challenge keeping up with them. According to the developer documentation Process, major new features should have a specification in Moodle Docs with community consultation via a forum discussion. Should we have a specific forum for this, or use the general developer forum, or should developers post in one of the forums covering particular areas of Moodle? I'm thinking that maybe the general developer forum would put non-developers off from sharing their opinions. If we went for a specific forum for discussing new features, we could easily have a twitter stream fed by the forum RSS feed." Helen 16 Feb 2012 https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=196302
- "A forum "Feature Development" may help with focus, could help with the developer/admin/teacher divide. It could help with centralising this aspect of work. I've mentioned the current discussions that are not really noticed and currently lack engagement from users, For example: solving the scr*ll of death in Moodle 2, forums in Moodle 2, clean up and management of sections in Moodle 2 etc) - having a central place for this topic could help. Cautiously optimistic." followed by five proporsals. Derek 25 Feb 2012 https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=196302#p858562
But all there were proporsals, not decisions. Then there were a dozens of proporsals in that thread!
In fact the only authorative statement I found was _against_ the new forum: "these forums are not the place to discuss individual feature requests and bugs: the Moodle Tracker is clearly the best place for that." Martin 17 Feb 2012 https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=196302#p855699
Could you pl. quote the (previous) decision to create a "new features" forum?
Lots of words here, I've lost track. But I think I am clear, I think I can remember discussions based on various proposals. It's what communities do every now and then.
Surmising again: I think a decision was made (that's what leaders can do, consult, chit-chat then decide), and - with or without a formal announcement as such that I saw (from anyone or anywhere, Twitter, FB or Forums) - the result is that we have a new forum.
Putting aside all my opinions, my thoughts on what is best, workable etc, and whether I am happy (which I am) what I am unclear about Visvaneth is your prime concern or worry.
What's at the core of your concern? What are you worried about?
I'm keen to see you happy, or at least not unhappy.
Derek. No-one needs drop-down menus like that. Remember the wise words: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
In the Moodle forums, you can apply that maxim safe in the knowledge that if you don't respond, there is always someone more helpful and patient than yourself, who will respond to the idiot.
Well, it was moved here as a response to a thread I started that got way out of hand.
I have always felt pretty bad about that, so I would be very happy to see it moved back to where it used to be.
Just my two cents.
You've got me curious Art. What thread would that be? - Derek
That was about six years ago.
It started out as a report about an elementary school art teacher in the US (Texas) who lost her job because her students saw a nude statue in a museum. It ended up just a mess.
Moodle survived just fine, though.