I've inserted Offline Activity Assignments to a course and have built rubrics for them; however, the maximum # of points for some of these assignments exceeds 100. How to I set a maximum score of 105 or 110, etc, rather than the default pre-sets that max out at 100?
Is this thing working? Is this thing on?
You don't say what Moodle version you are using, but in Moodle2, Site Administration>Grades>Scales you can create your own scale, whether that be words, alphanumeric, or numeric. It simply says (in the ? Help that is on the page) "It is defined by an ordered list of values ranging from negative to positive, separated by commas" So I guess if you had the patience (or you could create them in a spreadsheet and save as a csv) you could go -1000 to +1000 if you wanted to - so allowing 105 or 110 shouldn't be a problem.
And yes 'This thing' is on - but if you ask a question of a community of volunteer users most of whom have full time teaching or other posts not related to Moodle, sometimes you need to be a bit patient in expecting a reply - We're generally faster than many commercial help desks, but there's not necessarily people manning every forum 24/7!
Or alternatively you have the option to look in the docs for yourself to find the answer - It took me 5 seconds to type 'Grade scales' into the search box and come up with this link http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Scales for you - probably less time than it took you to submit your second message.
I guess I should maybe say "thanks" for the response, Richard. But I "guessed" I could do the same as you described in your first paragraph since I'm in Moodle 2.2, but got aberrant behavior. I created a scale from 1 to 250 in increments of 1. I then used this scale for the "Grade" option in an Offline Activity Assignment. When I went to the gradebook, it displayed a grade value of (104), when the total points for the assignment is 211. I've been trying a host of ways to figure this out, but have come up short so joined this "community" and posted my question in hopes that someone had encountered this situation before and had figured out how to make it work better than the results I've gotten based on my own use of the "Help" and the docs intended to support users.
I don't "do" maths so I am no expert on grades and all that stuff (words woman not numbers woman) so I don't know if this is of any use or not but in Settings>site admin>grades>general settings down at the bottom there is an "unlimited grades" which allows you directly in the gradebook to enter grades of over 100%
Thanks, Mary, but I tried this and it had no impact on my ability to enter point values greater than 100 in the Assignment settings. I may need to step back and rethink what I'm trying to accomplish given the limitations. Thanks for attempting to help.
Then perhaps rather than sending me a hurtful PM telling me how I've insulted you on the forum after trying to give you some help, you may have been better off explaining the steps you had already tried so someone more qualified than me could give you the help you are after rather than posting your own message of the 'Is anyone out there' variety.
I tried to respond to that and offer you some help and point you in the direction of the docs - which you had not said you had already looked at and struggled with, or my response may have been very different, all I get is a hurtul PM saying how I've insulted you
Well I have to say after the last few weeks from people like yourslef and a certain other member in a previous other discussion I think I've had enough and I'll be taking a break from these forums for a while.
Thanks to the two Marys, to people like Danny Wahl, Gavin Hendrick and many others for their help and support and to all those who have responded with thanks for somebody trying to help them and everyone else's support over the last few years, but I don't need the insults in forums or in PMs!!!
Deep breaths, Richard. Deep breaths. We all appreciate your input. At least I can say I certainly have appreciated your insights in the past. I look forward to your return.
Walt: This is a subject I've gone round on for a while, and I have tried all sorts of different tactics to re-think my point structures within my course. There are various workarounds other people have tried, too. See the discussion in this tracker item here: http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-9085
I think Bob Puffer's patch might help, if you are able to apply it in your situation, and if the patch is updated for 2.2-Bob will have to chime in on that.
This issue was on the radar a while back for a harder look by the core developers, but I don't know if it maybe got sidelined by higher priorities. In any case, there is a strong contingent who agree this feature would be helpful to have. Go vote for it. Thanks!
No point in voting for that particular issue as it only seems to relate to Moodle 1.9 .x, and since this version is not being updated other than for security issues, you may as well create a new issue in Moodle Tracker.
Hi, Mary. Point taken. Most site admins have either found their own workarounds or done something else since this discussion. I haven't explored options for how it might work yet in Moodle 2 because I'm still teaching on 1.9 myself. I was hoping someone would pipe in and say, "hey Lesli, that's already fixed now. You just missed the memo." (The tracker item says unresolved, possible fix for 2.2, so I thought it might still be active?).
Edit: Oops. I see where my error was. It says Assignment 2.2, not Moodle 2.2. Okay. Well, I've coped this long with piecing all of the small parts of a large project together in three separate assignments. I'll just keep doing that.
I found something in Moodle 2.3 which looks interesting...about setting customised scales for grading? All this is new to me, but it could well be an established thing, I'm not sure.
I think I better get back to my themes...they are easy compared with the rest of Moodle.
Currently working on the LAE Grader report which has seen magnificent progress -- hats off to the re-writers of the 2.x gradebook. After that I'll be going after text grade input for assignments allowing floating point numbers and grades greater than 100 (been using it in 1.9 for two years). Which I might mention fixes probably one of the most glaring and long-living shortcomings in Moodle. What's up -- why can't we get this fixed in core?
Instead of offline assignments you could just create them as a grade items into the gradebook. Grade items you can enter a point value in as the max grade as compared to regular assignments having the pull-down menu.
Offline assignments do offer the benefit of showing up on the course homepage and providing a description of what the assignment is. If you think this part isn't absolutley necessary than grade items are the way to go.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have been looking around quite a bit for a solution for using rubrics in combination with "unlimited grades".
I feel it would be particularly valuable if rubrics had an option to force the rubric to simply sum the point values assigned each level, instead of calculating percentages out of points possible.
An assignment graded on a Proficiency basis is an important example of where this would be essential, i.e. Proficiency is... (not demonstrated • developing • proficient • exceeds expectations). While it may be impossible to exceed expectations on more than a few criteria, in this system, the "exceeds" level should be at or just below 120% and should compensate accordingly in the total grade for a criteria marked "developing". This is a useful system with the rigor imposed by requiring any student scoring above a B+ (89.99%) to actually exceed expectations on a regular basis.
Rubric calculation based on simply summing points with "unlimited grades" would be very valuable to implement in Moodle.