Greetings - I am building a step-by-step for faculty and students on using the Advanced Assignment feature. From the Student point of view, when they are submitting a Draft that will not be graded but reviewed by the faculty, after they upload the the Draft to the Assignment - what is their next step? Do they navigate away from the Assignment using breadcrumbs? I understand that if they click the Submit Assignment button that closes the assignment box and they cannot submit anymore drafts. I know the faculty can change the document to a draft, but I would like the students to feel comfortable and follow the correct process. Thank you so much for any help you can provide. Nancy K.
We don't use "submit for marking" here, but as I understand that feature the idea is to upload a draft, hit submit (which notifies instructor), get comments back, have instructor change back to draft, and follow that process again and again.
So, you wouldn't be uploading the draft without hitting submit. (Unless the student just wants some place to store the file.)
This is an entirely different process from what you get if you disable "Submit for marking."
Note: you don't say which version you're using, but in 1.9, if a user uploads files with identical names, each new file overwrites the previous file.
Thank you Ben for your quick response. Yes, we are 1.9.9 and the only button that is on the page is Submit for Send for Marking - please see the image. There is no button for just Submit. If the student uses the submit for final marking they get the message regarding that this is final upload for grade. As a student if I am submitting a document for review only - this would be very discouraging. We work with students in the UAE - so we often review their papers before they are submitted for a final grade - since they are writting in English. So if they do not hit Submit - should I instruct them to just go to breadcrumbs and return to the course? it works but it just seems that there should be a button to close the Assignment box once the upload is completed to close the process.
Right, the button is labeled "Submit for marking," but the trick is that you don't have to grade/mark the submission and that you can change the grade/mark upon resubmission. So, the cycle can be endlessly repeated until one party declares "That's enough."
As we know, the "Send For Marking" button pushes an assignment through for grading if enabled. After the send for marking button is pushed, to get back to that draft stage and remove their submission, the teacher must step in. This is also true if Send For Marking is never turned on; the teacher must take steps to give the student a chance to resubmit.
To revert to the draft stage or let a student resubmit, click on the assignment activity, then click on View # submitted assignments, in the upper right. On the page with the roster and their submissions, click Grade (or Update for students who have already been graded) for the student who should get to resubmit. When the new window opens, click Revert to Draft at the lower right, or click the black X to delete their files.
Wouldn't using the Online Text type of Assignment and allowing resubmission be a simpler way to do this? I've found that having students cut and paste from their word processor, if they don't want to compose with the Moodle editor, is easier for most than managing uploading files. It also creates a better, IMO, record of comments and revisions.
It depends on how your people like to comment. Mine are mostly writing courses, writing instructors, and they prefer to comment inter-textually, using Words review options OR JUST SHOUTING IN THE STUDENT'S TEXT.
Got to say, our students go down to age 5 or 6, and very rarely do we have issues/confusion/etc with uploading and downloading files. As long as files don't all have the same name
Whether cut/paste or upload a file, resubmission is simply another entry (Moodle 2.0 file naming issue notwithstanding). So suppose we use the database activity for submissions, and suppose an entry is locked upon adding (or after a certain predefine time limit), the instructor does not need to revert anything. If the assignment is not due yet and the instructor allows resubmissions (no max entries limit) the student may add more entries and all these entries but the very last one may be considered as drafts. The instuctor may or may not comment on these drafts. The last one is the final submission and will be marked for grading.
This is an excellent suggestion, but we are teaching our students the writing and formatting of a university research paper - so I think we need to have the full document submitted to review the use of grammar and composition.
Thank you so much for your input. I am relatively new to Moodle so I am still learning the ins and outs of the activities. To me the idea of the Advanced Assignment was to allow the student to submit a draft document and for the document to go back and forth between student and teacher for review and revisions. Then when the limit is reached the student submits for a grade. To me there should be a button that says Submit Draft and one for Submit for Grade. Our students are very grade conscious and if they are submitting a draft and they see the message regarding final submission for marking they will go blastic and I can understand why. I think I will try to direct them to navigate away using breadcrumbs when they submit a draft and only use the button for the final copy.
The grade issue is one of the reasons we don't use "Submit for marking." Although our students don't make much use of the ability to upload a succession of files, they have the ab ility to do so.
If you turn off "submit for marking," you can just set the number of potential uploads at 20 (or whatever), and trade files back and forth until the instructor is ready to say "Time for the final draft," all without grading. Both student and instructor will be notified each time a file is uploaded by the other. Very much like the system Itamar advocates using in the Database module.
Problem we are having is that the Teacher isn't being notified if the Assignment is submitted as a draft - only receive an email if it is submitted for marking...please help