Hi everybody,
i am using moodle 1.9.10
Mathtran Filter is -enabled
for Code creation, i am using 'MathType'
Specifically, for Matrices,
In MathType, i use TRANSLATOR- "Tex-PlainTex"
Otherwise, translator is "LaTex 2.09 and later"
OK
My Problem is,
Matrices created in (Mathtype-translator-Tex-Plain Tex) are NOT seen properly in HTML editor.
But seen properly in 'OPTIONS'.
Basically it is problem for '3X3' Matrix
pl. suggest.
TIA
Ravi
Ravi,
Not sure what version of MathType you're using, but we introduced a new "Moodle TeX filter" translator in MathType 6.7 for Windows (and will also be included soon in MathType 6.7 for Macintosh). If you're using this translator, here's what your 2x2 and 3x3 matrices look like:
$$\left( {\begin{array}{ccccccccccccccc}{{a_{11}}}&{{a_{12}}}\\{{a_{21}}}&{{a_{22}}}\end{array}} \right)$$
$$\left( {\begin{array}{ccccccccccccccc}{{a_{11}}}&{{a_{12}}}&{{a_{13}}}\\{{a_{21}}}&{{a_{22}}}&{{a_{23}}}\\{{a_{31}}}&{{a_{32}}}&{{a_{33}}}\end{array}} \right)$$
Bob Mathews
Design Science
Hi Bob,
MathType is Excellent. No Doubt !!
I am using MathType 5.2
My Question is What proper Code for 3X3 Matrix.
which will render properly by Mathtran.
Where do i get 'such' information.
for Matriices, i will enter code manually.(If Mathtype 5.2 is unable to create code for 3X3)
Thanks
and thanks for MathType
Ravi
MathType is Excellent. No Doubt !!
I am using MathType 5.2
My Question is What proper Code for 3X3 Matrix.
which will render properly by Mathtran.
Where do i get 'such' information.
for Matriices, i will enter code manually.(If Mathtype 5.2 is unable to create code for 3X3)
Thanks
and thanks for MathType
Ravi
Ravi, here is the code I used for the 3x3 above:
$ $\left( {\begin{array}{ccccccccccccccc}{{a_{11}}}&{{a_{12}}}&{{a_{13}}}\\{{a_{21}}}&{{a_{22}}}&{{a_{23}}}\\{{a_{31}}}&{{a_{32}}}&{{a_{33}}}\end{array}} \right)$ $
Except don't put a space between the dollar signs.
The MathType code itself is ok ( 3 times c would be enough for a 3 column matrix) but Ravi's problem is caused by the renderer - mathTran - which is using custom syntax for matrices and roots. See http://www.mathtran.org/wiki/index.php/Syntax_differences
It is a little bit painful to enter large matrices manually but code like
http://www.mathtran.org/cgi-bin/mathtran?tex=\left%28+\matrix+{{a_{11}}+%26+{a_{12}}+%26+{a_{13}}+\cr+{a_{21}}+%26+{a_{22}}+%26+{a_{23}}+\cr+{a_{31}}+%26+{a_{32}}+%26+{a_{33}}}+\right%29
should render
with mathtran.
And to get this url code and
Ravi should probably use syntax like
\left( \matrix {{a_{11}} & {a_{12}} & {a_{13}} \cr {a_{21}} & {a_{22}} & {a_{23}} \cr {a_{31}} & {a_{32}} & {a_{33}}} \right)
IF Mathtran filter encodes "(" to "%28" and "&" to "%26" and ")" to "%29" and space to "+" with \cr as new line in urls.
I have not tested this with Mathtran filter - just with Mathtran img tags.
Yes, of course. You answered Ravi's question more directly than I did. I was focusing on the MathType part, and didn't notice the Mathtran part.
Not quite sure why MathType puts so many c's in there.
Hi Bob,
i installed MathType 6.7a(30 daysTrial)
Translator -Plain TeX
I am surprised for 2X2 Matrix.
code generated - $ $\left( {\matrix{
a & b \cr
c & d \cr
} } \right)$ $
It doesn't show properly in HTML area,
But show properly in OPTION area
Pl. see screenchot
Still Mauno's trick, i haven't try.
Ravi
i installed MathType 6.7a(30 daysTrial)
Translator -Plain TeX
I am surprised for 2X2 Matrix.
code generated - $ $\left( {\matrix{
a & b \cr
c & d \cr
} } \right)$ $
It doesn't show properly in HTML area,
But show properly in OPTION area
Pl. see screenchot
Still Mauno's trick, i haven't try.
Ravi
Hei Mauno,
i tried your code
\left( \matrix {{a_{11}} & {a_{12}} & {a_{13}} \cr {a_{21}} & {a_{22}} & {a_{23}} \cr {a_{31}} & {a_{32}} & {a_{33}}} \right)
with double dollars
It also same i.e.
Not OK in HTML area But
OK in 'Option' area
Pl see screenshot
Ravi
i tried your code
\left( \matrix {{a_{11}} & {a_{12}} & {a_{13}} \cr {a_{21}} & {a_{22}} & {a_{23}} \cr {a_{31}} & {a_{32}} & {a_{33}}} \right)
with double dollars
It also same i.e.
Not OK in HTML area But
OK in 'Option' area
Pl see screenshot
Ravi
This amp; issue is most likely caused by some other editor related problem - not the mathematical syntax itself.
My guess is that when you paste the code to editor ampersand & is converted to html entity & and inside mathematical notations like matrices such expressions show only first & to separate different parts of matrix code and rest of the entity amp; is shown at the beginning of the following part.
This might be a bug in Quiz module or some question type - have you tried to save your question in html mode ( press <> and save the question ) ?
( In editor mode you see typically & but in html mode HTMLArea changes all ampersands to & entities and when you swich back from html mode to editor mode & entities are again converted to ampersands )
Hei Mauno,
100 % true.
In 'OPTION' area- It is already in HTML. That is why it renders properly.(NO "&" Problem)
But Moodle Editor (HTML) consider it (&) ..........> HTML entity.
Thanks again as usual
Ravi
100 % true.
In 'OPTION' area- It is already in HTML. That is why it renders properly.(NO "&" Problem)
But Moodle Editor (HTML) consider it (&) ..........> HTML entity.
Thanks again as usual
Ravi
Hei Mauno,
when HTML (< >) remain open.
it renders properly.
but,
i think it is not perfect solution because whenever we update the same question.
it repeats same Problem.
Now, i am trying
http://www.mathtran.org/cgi-bin/mathtran?tex=\left%28+\matrix+{{a_{11}}+%26+{a_{12}}+%26+{a_{13}}+\cr+{a_{21}}+%26+{a_{22}}+%26+{a_{23}}+\cr+{a_{31}}+%26+{a_{32}}+%26+{a_{33}}}+\right%29
Does it reuire any more delimiter or any other thing?
pl. suggest.
TIA
Ravi
when HTML (< >) remain open.
it renders properly.
but,
i think it is not perfect solution because whenever we update the same question.
it repeats same Problem.
Now, i am trying
http://www.mathtran.org/cgi-bin/mathtran?tex=\left%28+\matrix+{{a_{11}}+%26+{a_{12}}+%26+{a_{13}}+\cr+{a_{21}}+%26+{a_{22}}+%26+{a_{23}}+\cr+{a_{31}}+%26+{a_{32}}+%26+{a_{33}}}+\right%29
Does it reuire any more delimiter or any other thing?
pl. suggest.
TIA
Ravi
In my post I used image plugin of editor (in moodle 2 TinyMCE but it's almost similar in HTMLArea) and pasted the complete link to url field - preview shows
Then you get <IMG> tags with encoded url.
And one option is of course to disable editor from your user profile (When editing text - use standard web forms).
Then editor can't change the code and you can edit content of textarea as HTML.
That's not perfect either but it may be easier anyway to disable/enable editor from user profile than to start writing manually encoded urls...