I have been adjusting the gradebook to get it to show the material I want it to show. Somewhere along the line my "Grade Category Totals" have disappered. I cannot seem to get the grade category totals back. I even tried unhiding everything that I had hidden. I also check the course settings and do not see what is causing this. Below is an example of the user report problem after I re-hid the items that I do not want people to see. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Diane
What is your Moodle version?
Please go to Settings area of the gradebook and check what "Hide totals if they contain hidden items" is set for, for your User report.
We are using Moodle 1.9.5. I do not see the "Hide totals if they contain hidden items" setting.
I noticed that the total columns for each category in actual gradebook do not show totals either. These items are not hidden. Then only items that are hidden appear in my example in the user report. I have tried to unhide these items and the totals do not appear.
I also checked some other courses that use the gradebook and they seem to be fine. So, the problem seems to be isolated to this course. I know that the totals were there at one point. The only thing that was originally changed in the gradebook is that the items that appear in the user report were hidden. I, of course, have been changing other things just to get the category totals to appear, but nothing seems to work.
I have gone through all the settings with a "fine tooth comb," so I am not sure what I could be missing. Is it possible that this course is just corrupt?
You still have bunch of items and course total hidden based on your screnshot.
I would check Categories and Items interface (unhide things if needed there), then double-check if you have anything weird in Multiplicator and Offset columns. Check what your aggregation methods are set to.
Also, review individual settings of the Total columns to ensure that their type is set to Value (and not to text or Scale)
I figured it out! The course has serveral different categories set up with weighted mean of grades for the aggregation. The instructor had each category set at the weight he wanted. For instance, there is a category for Quizzes that is worth 45% of the grade. So, 45.0 was put in as the weight for the category. The instructor did not have weights for each quiz. The weight was just at 0.0 for each quiz. The instructor thought the putting 45.0 for the category only would weight everything at 45.0. As soon as I put 45.0 in for each of the quizzes the category totals showed up.
This brings up another question... How should this work. If you want the Quizzes to be worth or weighted 45.0 of the grade what should you put in for the weights at the individual quiz level and the category level?
You can to set Course Total to Weighed Mean. Then type 45 for Quiz category.
As for sub-categories, they can be set to SUM or SWM aggregation methods.
You do not really need to use WM for sub-categories, unless you weight quizzes differently inside those sub-categories. If you will choose to use WM for sub-categories, I would recocmend to type 1 for each individual quiz weight. It will act the same as SWM then.
That is actually the way I had it set when I lost the category totals. I had each category set to weighted mean of grades with the weight defined at the category level. Each item under a particular category was set to 0.0. I was not getting any category or course totals with it set up this way. As soon as I added a weight to each item under the category level then the category and course totals showed up. So, right now I have the weight defined at the category level and at each item. For example, I have a Quiz Category set at 45.0 weight. Each quiz in that category is also set at 45.0. I am not sure if my totals are going to come out correct this way or not. I have not checked that yet. It almost seems to me that it would weight the stuff in the category twice set up this way. I am not sure that the instructor wants the grades calculated as SWM, so I don't think I want to put a 1 in.
Will my weights work correctly if I just put the weight each item under the category and not the category. For example, I put in 0.0 for the weight of my quiz category and then set each each quiz under that category at 45.0 weight. Will that make each quiz worth 45% of the grade?
Any thoughts on how I can set this gradebook up would be greatly appreciated.
You have lost the totals, because you had your items (quizzes) weighted as 0. If the item does not worth anything, it cannot be calculated towards the total.
Which also means that if you will give 0 weight to the Quiz category, it will contribute nothing towards the course total.
If you will type 1 (or any other weight) for the quizzes, on the other hand, then the total will be calculated correctly.
Typing 45, or 1, or even 67.8 (same number) for each individual quiz in the Quiz Category will result in exactly the same calculation at the end. When you use Weighted Mean and type the same number for the weight of every grade item, you are making Weighted Mean to work as Simple Weighted Mean.
To avoid confusion, I would recommend to use the steps from my previous post (same as Edward suggested)
Set Course Aggregation to Weighted Mean. Set Quiz Category to the Simple Weighted Mean. Type 45 as a weight for Quiz Category. Type other weights as needed, making sure that their sum will be 100 at the end.
If you wish - post a screenshot of your Categories and Items interface after you are done, and we can double-check
To be honest, I have had a horrible time with the Moodle gradebook and you and I both know it is something I have done. I would really appreciate your helping me resolve my issues once and for all. I have followed your directions for adding weighted categories and in the Grader View my grades are calculated correctly (yeah!) However, course totals are still not showing up in the User View. Could you please help me troubleshoot this problem? I have attached screenshots.
I see that you have some items hidden in the GB...try revealing them in the GB...You can still hide them in the course page. That has worked for me. Another snag can occur when the COURSE TOTAL eye "sticks" closed even tho the icon appears to be open...try closing the eye>save change...then open the eye>save change and see if that works. Hope this helps
My grades are manual and so I did go into the edit area and hide these grades! Wonderful and thank you so much for taking the time to help me.
Edward is correct. Your totals are not showing because you have hidden items there
Unhide the hidden Exams, of if you use 1.9.8+, then go to Grades link > Settings > locate 'Hide totals if they contain hidden items' for the User report, and set it to either Show excluding or including the hidden items.
So simple! Thank you and what you say about changing the settings makes sense. Worked like a charm.
I have the SAME problem! I did everything Elena explained...and still nothing. I'm very frustrated.
I teach at an elementary/middle school and so my "course" actually has several "categories" - i.e. "Math", "Science", "Language Arts", etc.
Within each of these categories I have "sub-categories" such as "participation", "homework", "assessments". I'm trying to weight the "sub-categories" so that my Math grade (for instance) is composed of multiple parts - each weighted differently.
Since I'm using Moodle in this way, I don't need a "course total", but just a total for each big category (Math, Science, etc.)
Can you help? Anyone?
Please post a screenshot of your Categories and Items screen and a screenshot of an actual user report (blur out the user name if contained in the pic). A screenshot of Settings wouldn't hurt either. This should give everyone more information on which to base suggestions. Also indicate what specific version of Moodle you're using.
I figured it out. All of my "aggregate with subcategories" were checked. Apparently, they shouldn't be - although it seems to me that I would WANT the sub-categories included. Sheesh.
Moodle makes my life much harder than it should be....
We've hidden "Aggregate with subcategories" by making it advanced, forcing it, and "hiding forced settings" in Site administration->Grades->Category settings. Less is more.
When i look at this GB it seems to me that if you set the Course to WEIGHTED Mean of Grades, and then set the quiz CATEGORY, the Chapter exercises, and the PROJECT to SIMPLE weighted mean (especially if they all carry equal weight..that is quiz grades divided by 2=category average) you might shake up the GB and get the category totals to show again. Hope this helps
I have had a very similar/same problem with a solution I just found. While I could see course and category totals calculated correctly, they were indicated to be hidden in the grader report and the students couldn't see the grades. Fiddling with the aggregation method and "hide until" settings did not help.
I ended up going to Grader Report preferences and enabling the Show/Hide (eye) icon. Then in the Grader Report after "Turn editing on", I discovered that the course and category totals, while shown for the course as a whole, were somehow hidden for each student individually. Hiding the category totals for the entire class and then reshowing them fixed this so that each student could see his grades.
I tried all the fancy buttons. This took hours and my category totals would still not show to my students even though they should. Then on a whim I tried the basic tenet of IT support:
"Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
The eyeball for the category was already on. I clicked it off then on again.