Comparisons and advocacy

 
 
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Re: Case study: Moodle loses to D2L
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Ray, you make an excellent point about what convinces execs.

I guess one reason there are so many different LMSs is that there are so many different kinds of organizations.  One could perhaps do an anthropological study of organizations to see what attracts them to different LMSs (I know nothing about anthropology - maybe not the right field?). Seems to me that execs who know nothing about LMSs would need to be convinced that they have the internal resources to make an open-source LMS work.  If not, they are almost always going to be swayed by the argument that it's better to put all eggs in the commercial LMS basket so that they'll have someone else to blame (not their own staff) when things inevitably go wrong.

You could create a matrix: High/low confidence in capacity of self and/or staff to deal with problems vs high/low tolerance for problems within the organization.

I must say - I'm still amazed that this discussion still resonates strongly with people after almost three years.  We must have hit upon something timely, or timeless, in the discussion. smile

Peter

 
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Tim at Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary
Re: Case study: Moodle loses to D2L
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The "have[ing] someone else to blame" argument does not hold water. You can have someone else to blame with Moodle. Just hire a Moodle Partner. The point is that you have a choice of who to blame.

 
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King Crab Fishing in Norway
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Unfortunately using a Moodle Partner is often like being stuck with a commercial LMS. A lot of the Moodle partners lock you down, so the smallest changes cost huge sums of cash. Except when certain things aren't working in Moodle, they avoid blame by blaming Moodle. Then they just put in a ticket which may get resolved within a couple of years... and the blame is completely off of the Moodle partner. Well, that is just my personal experience. big grin

 
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moi!!! it is what is is...
Re: Case study: Moodle loses to D2L
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Another way of looking at this is we are talking around in circles. Also, even with the introduction of Moodle 2.x, things have essentially remained the same. What is this actually telling us?

 
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Re: Case study: Moodle loses to D2L
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Talking in circles about Moodle being customizable and supported by Moodle Partners? Problem here is its expensive to test and support customizations. Core can make Moodle more configurable, but each configuration option then needs to be tested. That moves the cost from Partners to Core, which is probably right, but then Core needs more testes and documentors, many more, do it right. In that scenario Moodle becomes more like Salesforce, very customizable application. Also very (very) expensive.

Or do you mean that priority be given to good UI/UE? The problem here is more solvable - and arguably a better use of resources - people will forgive a really pretty application that is fun to use for not doing everything - because they enjoy using the features it does have. See Instructure Canvas, for example. Its doubtful Core will bring on an architect and put them in charge of design (like the way great buildings and great commercial software are madesmile, and Moodle will remain developer driven- maybe developers can learn to think like designers: http://kadavy.net/blog/posts/d4h-the-book/

 
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Tim at Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary
Re: Case study: Moodle loses to D2L
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Barbara Ramiro may not be an architect, but Martin hired her over a year ago to work on the UI, and she is starting to have an impact.

There is other good work going on (driven by developers even wink) for example MDL-30637.

P.S. I am pretty sure Forum NG has the "see/grade all a student's posts to this forum on one page" feature. At least, we ahve that for OU Wiki, and if we don't already have it for Forum NG, it is on the to-do list.

 
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