Moodle in English: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by Vernellia Randall - Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 8:35 PM

Because I doing workshops with 30+ students and they have weekly workshop. I am not doing a teacher assessment on every student. Rather students do 3 to 4 assessments and there is a teacher assessment on student's paper where there is more than a 15 point spread between the highest assessment and the lowest assessment. In that case I do a teacher assessment. It means that when I go to calculate the final grade some students have teacher assessment and others do not.

My understanding that the forumla calculating student's submission grade ignores the lack of a teacher assessment and the student grade would be, for example, the average of the 3 student assessments. And where there is a teacher assessment, is the average of the 3 student assessments and the teacher assessment - assuming that the teacher assessment is weighted the same as the student.

Is this correct?

Re: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by David Mudrák - Friday, May 21, 2010, 3:27 AM

Yes Vernellia, this is correct. I would personally just use higher weight of the teacher's assessment so that it helps workshop to calculate the final given grade more accurately.

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Re: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by Steve Iman - Friday, December 31, 2010, 5:00 AM

Has this changed for Moodle 2.0 workshops? I have looked through the materials and tried to step through a sample workshop. I find the screens where I can review comments and scores from peer raters, and do an over-ride with note. I'm presuming that it's here I'd need to work to copy and paste student comments about peers since I don't think those are emailed. But I don't see anyplace where faculty can make an independent assessment or set weights on it in comparison with peer raters? If I'm missing something, I've very much appreciate a comment.

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Re: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by David Mudrák - Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:22 AM

Hi Steve. There is no conceptual difference between peer assessment and faculty assessment in 2.0. Every role with the permission to submit can do so. Such a submission then has to be allocated for an assessment (aka review) and a weight of that assessment can be set. So if you want a submission be assessed by some user, either allocate the submission to them or give them permission to allocate submissions so they can assess them themselves (if users can allocate submissions, they could allocate any submission to themselves so effectively they are able to assess any submission they select).

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Re: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by Steve Iman - Saturday, January 1, 2011, 1:34 AM

Thanks for the clarification. It's my understanding then that the faculty member shouldn't try to design a situation where their assessment is weighted with those of peer reviewers. Rather it seems far simpler to allow student peers to evaluate, and then as faculty to review and over-ride as judged appropriate with comment. This way the faculty member doesn't have to submit an essay or post of the assignment itself and then manually over-ride random allocations to be qualified as a rater for each class member. I can surely live with that!

I wonder if there would ever be a way of rigging the system up to allow a manager or faculty member to 'submit' on behalf of students. I'm just thinking how one could use this tool for peer assessment of performance. In this case the trigger is not an essay or post, but something more along the lines of evaluating the person's contribution. If some stock words could comprise the submission, then assessment scales could be devised (support, teamwork, leadership,etc.) for offline performance assessment with all the virtues of considering the peer rating as well as the pattern of ratings.

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Re: Is my understanding of the grade calculation correct?

by David Mudrák - Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 3:41 AM

Hi Steve,

faculty members do not need to submit their own work to be able to assess students' submissions. In Workshop 2.0, the teacher can assign herself as a reviewer of a work. I can even imagine a new allocation method (that is a third card at the Allocation page) that randomly picks N given submissions and allocates them to the current user (or any other given user). This way, workshop with 50 students could run in a classic peer-review mode and the teacher could just randomly pick 5 or 7 submissions to check.

Submitting on behalf students is possible with the standard "login as" feature. However I think that the teacher can just ask all students to simply upload a very short information (like their team name or even their own name or so) just to register them in the workshop. And yes - you are right - since then, you can actually assess anything, not only the submission itself.

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