MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Pragmatouch MoodleTouch -
Number of replies: 36
For more information www.moodletouch.com

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Average of ratings: Useful (1)
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Julian Ridden -
I am very excited by this project. Now with both the Moodle theme addition by Moodle4iPhone as well as this app based approach users really can find the tool that best suits them.

My only feedback with the app, and I am purely being picky here, is I would like to see some nicer design elements. This is an issue with iPhone apps in general. All te black and grey. Get creative. See if we can make this any more engaging smile

I like the button options at the bottom. Can't wait to finally install and have a play with it.

Julian
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by Ali Ozgur -
Hi,

We are proud to announce that the first and the only native IPhone app for Moodle is on the AppStore and ready for sale from 2.99 USD. We have also published custom branding prices on our web site.

View custom branding details
Check out mTouch on the AppStore

Thanks for your interest and hope to hear from you soon.
My best regards

Ali Özgür
www.pragmatouch.com

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by Denise Krefting -
Ali- I purchased and downloaded this app, but was unable to see my classes. I logged into my server with a variety of usernames and nothing. I noticed that on the Apple store site for mTouch others have had this problem. Any ideas?
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by Ali Ozgur -
Can you provide me a sample username,password and your moodle site url so that I can check out what is wrong.

You can contact me privately from this address ali.ozgur@pragmasql.com
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by Lesley Reilly -
I have purchased this app, I can log on and see my courses but I cannot see the content of the forums. It says that there are no posts. I can see the title of the posts but when I touch it to read it, it won't allow me to.

Also, I am a Teacher in the course but I cannot see my admin panel.

I am looking forward to having the kinks worked out as this will be a great app if it works!


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by Ali Ozgur -
Hi Lesley,

Thanks for the feedback and purchasing mTouch. We have clearly stated on the AppStore and on our site that mTouch supports only student operations for the time being. So if you want to administer your course as the teacher I'm soorry but you can not do that with mTouch yet.

If you can create student account and still have problems accessing the forums please contact us from http://www.pragmasql.com/home/moodletouch/moodletouch-contactus.aspx

and send us your site url and a demo account so that we can see what is wrong with mTouch.


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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Chad Outten -
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Hello Ali,

Thanks for your work on this. I've had a bit of a play - app looks good on surface. Agree with JR, styling could be nicer. Also, perhaps providing an iphone theme that is consistent with the app theming - so this can be selected at a site, category, course or user level. The 'other' iPhone project will give you some good theming ideas.

http://iphone.moodle.com.au

Upon testing, I was unable to submit an assignment file or attach file to discussion forum. See attachment here. I've added a bug issue over at your support site. It's good to see you've setup a support system. Do you intend to document the app?

On another note, is the mTouch app a 'sign of the times' with respect to Moodle contributed code? This is the first time I've had to directly pay for a third-party Moodle plugin. This follows the Joomla model where non-core developers have freedom to commercialise their extensions and the community has a choice to stick to core or pay for quality extensions. In fact, the quality of third-party development, support and documentation is obvious over at Joomla, particularly with the commercial extensions.

I totally respect the fact that all developers deserve to be paid for their time, contributions. On the same token, I recognise Moodle's business model (ie Trust and Partners) is somewhat different to Joomla. Excuse me if I've overlooked something in all this. What do other people think, know?

Cheers,
Chad
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by Ali Ozgur -
Hi Chad,

Thank you for the feedback. For the bug you have posted we need temporary access to your moodle installation to analyze what is going on inside. We have got your ticket on our system and can you please provide me access to your moodle site and email me the username, pwd and the url privately to ali.ozgur@pragmasql.com

Comming to the moodle business model and copyright issues, mTouch is not a plugin or module and does not use moodle code in any manner. mTouch is simply an optimized Moodle browser and is not different than IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome or Safari. So I guess there is no conflict in terms of copyright.

I hope to get your moodle site information as soon as possible. Bugs make me nervous smile

Ali
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Joseph Thibault -
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My understanding is that the app actually builds upon Firefox for Mobile (the "native" app is actually a customized browser that makes viewing Moodle pages via iphone OS easier/simpler).

From the Pragma blog: "you can think mTouch as a customized somehow intelligent browser for Moodle which is optimized for IPhone screen size and utilizes IPhone UI best practices" (http://blog.pragmasql.com/post/Why-we-decided-to-provide-a-desktop-version-for-MoodleTouch-(MTouch).aspx).

In any event, I'm glad to see all the activity (and more to come) in Moodle Mobile of late. It's tremendous!

-Joe
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by Ali Ozgur -
mTouch does not actually build on Firefox on Mobile. As I stated in my blog post it is just a customized browser and just applies some heuristics to change layering of Moodle content. Actually mTouch does not render content just arranges the layer.
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by Roger Emery -
Hi,

Nice idea for an app - needs work as discussed above - but a good start.

There appears to be a bug when attempting to open documents (Word, PDF). These open fine in the same course in safari on an iphone, but do not open in this app.
I just get "Loading Resources Info" pop up, then go away again.

iPhone 3Gs OS3.1.2

Roger
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by Ali Ozgur -
Hi Roger,

Which version of mTouch you are using. With mTouch 1.1 we have resolved that problem and verified the resolution with some people using mTouch.

Can you please contact me privately from ali.ozgur@pragmasql.com so that we can inspect what is wrong and find a solution for the problem if that still exists for mTouch 1.1

Thanks for the feedback.
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by Claire Browne -
We also have a problems with the Mtouch. We do not use topics or weekly course format.

We use the page format so to view any of our content we need to click on the resources.

Anyway of changing that?
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by Ali Ozgur -
Can you please contact me privately and send me your site url and provide me a test account so that we can see if we can do something for you.

In any case I guess mTouch operates well with your moodle installation, but your problem is with the default navigation mTouch provides.
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by Roger Emery -
It is also not showing the correct course listing for the students.

Will mail you some screen captures.

Roger
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by Ali Ozgur -
We will need a test accound. Can you please email me a test account for your site.
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by Ali Ozgur -
I got the mail and found the problem we will publish an update as soon as possible.
We have solved the problem.
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by Limber Lomeli -
I have exactly The same problem, I did What you told to someone, update mTouch but it says same, about Session Key
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Bryan Williams -
  • Can't upload an Assignment file
  • Forum mod seems to work OK
  • Could not take a Quiz activity from iPhone
  • Could not take or display a Lesson activity from iPhone
  • Where's the course calendar?
  • Interface is not very intuitive - app has a beta feel.
  • Are students going to pay $3 for this - seems a bit on the high side IMO
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by Ali Ozgur -
  • Can't upload an Assignment file : We can discuss more about this problem. This may have many causes, one may be policies another may be temporary network access problem and so on. But mTouch is tested against the http://demo.moodle.net and we know that assignments module is supported properly by mTouch
  • Could not take a Quiz activity from iPhone : Please check out our features page from www.moodletouch.com . We have clearly stated there, thanks to Ron, that Quizzes module is not supported to the full extent.
  • Could not take or display a Lesson activity from iPhone : Same as the previous one
  • Where's the course calendar? : Course calendar = Upcoming Events as stated in demo.moodle.net. But we may change the naming if you believe that Course Calendar is the standard name.
  • Interface is not very intuitive - app has a beta feel. : Our interface follows the IPhone design guidelines and the naming convention follows demo.moodle.net. Can you specify exactly what you mean by beta feel? Color scheme? Positions of the actionable items? Main application flow? Menu organization?
  • Are students going to pay $3 for this - seems a bit on the high side IMO : We have custom branding options for institutions and our unit price is up to 65% percent lower for the custom branding plans, which means we are able to provide mTouch for that magic 0.99 USD price. Please check out http://www.pragmasql.com/home/moodletouch/custombranding.aspx
We are always open to constructive criticism and would be glad to provide you support in order to solve your problems, please contact us from http://www.pragmasql.com/home/moodletouch/moodletouch-contactus.aspx

We are open to contribution even if you do not buy mTouch, you can send us problem reports you may discover with our free Windows version. You do not have to be our customer in order to get support from us regarding mTouch.

My best regards.
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Mike Summers -
I must agree!

I am finding it difficult to use- I can see it being useful for students- but as a class teacher I do not have access to groups or courses for which I am an administrator but not a student.

Experience suggests that for this to be successful it needs to be owned by teachers first before the students. It's a bit lime turning up to a disco but the dj has forgotten their records!
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by Ali Ozgur -
We clearly stated that mTouch only supports students for the time being. Support for teacher operations may be implemented after Moodle 2.0 is released and matures a little bit.

I think that current Moodle implementation has lots of technical challanges for client tool developers. I guess these difficulties will be covered with Moodle 2.0 and more mobile moodle tools will exist.

I guess with mTouch as a teacher you now have the option to answer your students questions regarding IPhone app for moodle.

My best regards.
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by Frank Erazo -
I think this is a great product.

I have been wanting to experiment with creating Moodle courses that would be easier to use on mobile devices such as the iPhone/iTouch and now the iPad. I realize we can still access the actual Moodle instance via the Safari on an iPhone, but because of all the content, it always looked too crowded. Plus, the issue of Flash not running on Apple devices has been a concern. We use a lot of Flash in our development, so I was a bit disappointed when this app did not provide an alternative for that. However, I am looking forward to some updates that will allow use to use Flash on mobile devices.

Some other problems I experienced initially:

1) Lessons: I was able to access them, but the buttons we added to continue on to other lesson branches were not visible.
2) Quizzes: I accessed the quiz, but all it showed me was the front page (i.e., introduction). It did not give me any button or link to start the quiz.

Overall, I think this is a great concept! I am very glad someone saw the need to come up with this app. That being said, I look forward to many updates that address the use of Flash and the problems I mentioned.

Thank you!

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by Ali Ozgur -
Thanks for the feedback.
Flash support is a restriction imposed by apple so we Will not be able to support Flash until apple decides so. By the way Html5 Will decrease the need for Flash some time later.

The peoblems you mentioned regarding lessons and quzes will be implemented later, we the Limited support clearly i guess. May be with moodle 2.
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by Gavin Dudeney -
Hmm...

I'm trying to log in, but all I get is:

"can not log in, session key cannot be found" [ on my own site ]

Though it does log in fine here...

Any ideas?

Gavin
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by Ali Ozgur -
This was a known bug of mTouch 1.1.
mTouch 1.2 is on the AppStore and you can update your installation.

Thanks for the feedback.
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by Gavin Dudeney -
Hi,

I've just updated the app and am still having the same problem...

Gavin

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by Ali Ozgur -
Gavin,

Can you please contact me privatley from ali.ozgur@pragmasql.com
And if it is possible can you provide us a test account for your moodle site.

By the way I would recommend to check the Site URL you provide to mTouch. If you perform redirects from the welcome page or login page, it is crucial that you provide the actual url of your moodle instance.

Thanks.

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by Blair F. -
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I've just discovered mTouch-U and am giving it a try, but I'm experiencing the same error message.  Might it have something to do with us using https and not http?

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by Ali Ozgur -
If your login page is behind https but your content is served from http:// pelase select/check "Content is behind http://" which can be found under Moodle Connection Settings collapsable region in mTouch-U login page
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Glen MacPherson -
I don't see Quizzes anywhere here. Can students take quizzes with this app?
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by Jeff Stanford -
Hi
I've just downloaded Mtouch. I have the same problem. Would be good to have a solution.
Jeff smile
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by Ali Ozgur -
mTouch does not have full quiz support for now, you can only see the list and attempts.

We will implement full quiz support once Moodle 2.0 becomes the main Moodle stream version.

Thanks.
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by Frank Erazo -
I am curious about not being able to view Lesson's properly with the mTouch App. I've attached a screen capture of the problem I'm having. Basically, my lessons have several pages, but I am not able to navigate to them at all - no button.

Also, I am curious to know if this app can work on the iPad. I only see it available for the iTouch.

Thanks!
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Re: MTouch( Moodle client for IPhone )

by jhim Newton -

Hopefully they can change the layout of MTouch, so it will be more approachable to user, I am just been concern with it, but in the usage, it is real terrific. It works great with me even I am using Bluetooth iphone keyboard.