We recently moved from Moodle 1.6 to the current version and I understand the gradebook is quite different. To pass our course students need a fixed number of points. It is therefore frustrating that the gradebook gives the "Course Grade" total as a percentage and not as a total like it used to be in 1.6. I expected to find a setting I could change but I am already on "real" and I can't think of anything else that might affect it.
Is there are way to get the total grade score back or is this a change for 1.9 I just have to live with?
Also can I drop the display of the "range"?
If so, go to Categories and Items and review Max Grade for your course.
Most probably it is set to default 100, which make your final grade look like a percentage. (calculations are still corerct, but the grade is scaled to match 100 as maximum possible)
You can type the desired number manually, ro switch to SUM and then back.
Aggregation was Simple Weights Mean. I also tried Sum of Grades
Everything in the next box was selected. I also tried just Sum of Grades
Then it was
I still had a % for the total.
Have I looked in the wrong place for Max Grade for the course?
You go to the Administrator interface, but you need to go to the gradebook itself instead (teacher level).
Go to the course site that gives you trouble, click Grades in Administration block and locate Categories and Items tabs or dropdown.
On that one, look for Max Grade column and what you have for it in Course Total.
p.s. I hope I understood your problem correctly, if not, please post a screenshot of a bad gradebook (grader report) and categories and items interface for it.
P.p.s. I am now thinking that before you were also setting things in Administrator interface.
Try checking Settings tab/dropdown in the gradebook itself and look at Grade Display type dropdown - It should be Real or Real (Percentage), for example.
Also try clicking Edit icon near individual grade item in Categories and Items interface for the same grade display type per column.
I also went into Full view mode on grades and change it to summing but still no joy. I was interested that in one mode I can see the sums at the end of the row but I am not sure the user can ever see that.
I have added the report as it is shown at present. Is this the bit you thought I was asking about?
You are educating me quite well so thank you for your time.
I've just had a play with the gradebook and I think I understand what is happening with yours.
To change your course total to Real:
- Go to categories and items page (simple view is fine).
- There is an 'Actions' column to the right. Next to your course name (right at the top) underneath the 'Actions' column, click on the 'Edit' icon.
- Scroll down to the 'Grade item' section and find 'Grade display type'.
- Change it to 'Real'.
- Click Save changes.
It is really appreciated
I have a somewhat similar problem and am unsure what to do about it.
We have a course in which students work on different types of assignments, worth from 20 points to 300 points. The maximum points a student can earn is 2830. All we want to do is sum the points for the course -- no categories, no weights.
I set up a test student with two assignments, one worth 20 points (a quiz graded automatically) and one worth 30 points (an essay to be graded manually). Each shows up in the gradebook with the correct range, but the course total range shows 0-20, as if it is using only the range for the automatically graded quiz. How do I get it to show 0-50, since that is the maximum possible based on the two assignments?
grade_aggregation is set to "Sum of Grades" for all courses.
Where do I find that field to change, please?
Okay, I found it... but it is only for adding manual grade items. I want to set a maximum and minimum point range for assignment created through "Add an Activity" (such as a quiz or assignment). Can that be done?
If not, how do I create manual grade item and attach instructions to it, the same way I would put in a description when adding an activity?
Alternatively, you can leave the assignment grade on the default 0-100 and use a mirror grade item for counting the assignment for the course total, and set the max grade of that mirror grade item to 20 (or whatever max). Then you set the formula of the mirror grade item to =||theassignment||, and of course put the assignment in a certain category which the course total should skip when calculating the course grade.
You can't use scales if using Sum of Grades, at least not according to the help file.
It seems I'm stuck between a rock and hard place. When creating an assignment, the option of choosing a VALUE type is not available, so the it looks like the only way I can create something with a max and min grade is to do it by adding a manual grade item. But if I do that, the student doesn't have a way to attach a document to it.
I tried adding an assignment as a NO GRADE type and also adding a manual grade item with the correct max and min points allowed that corresponds to the NO GRADE assignment. That will work but is very confusing because both items show up in the grade book.
I also tried adding a calculation for the COURSE TOTAL. In my test course, I have a quiz (item id Q1 with a max of 20 points) and an assignment with an uploaded file (item id T1 with a max of 30 points). The calculation I used for the course total was:
but the course total is still displaying as 20 points instead of 50.
I'm very, very confused... surely there is a way to specify max and min values for each assignment without using scales or manual grade items, or to override the default values of 0-100 for graded items.
but the course total is still displaying as 20 points instead of 50.Have you changed the max grade of the course total to 50?
I was able to use version 196 to do this
I think the course total will remain 20 until you grade the manually graded assignment "Tasking S-1." I encountered this same problem.