Oh no! All of the pre and post conditions I have set on all of my Quizports have been lost. They all now simply display as "previous quiz" and "next quiz". The bizarre thing is that the same thing has happened on two separate sites, and on Quizports which I haven't touched for weeks.
What on earth did I do?
Deborah
Hi Gordon
Sorry, there is a correction to what I said. Not all of the pre and post conditions were lost in all of my Quizports. But they were lost in the two large Quizports I have on two separate sites.
Sorry also Gordon, I should have told you before. I am phasing out that Lingotango site. My new sites are at www.strivney.co.il and www.strivney.com . Same passwords and logins.
No, I do understand that the first quiz has to not have any pre-conditions in order for the Quizport to be viewed. It wasn't that. All of the pre-conditions were re-set to "previous quiz". And all the post conditions were re-set to "next quiz". I have just spent two hours ploughing through and re-doing the post conditions. I would really like to understand what I did. I did re-set the cache - and I also played around with the filters and navigation. I just don't want it to happen again....
Maybe what I did will come to me. In which case I will let you know.
Sorry to be so inconclusive.
Deborah
Yes, maybe I did inadvertently apply the wrong default values to that Quizport. But I was certain that the Quizport on the other site had the conditions set too. Seems a bit far fetched that I would have made the same mistake on both sites........but maybe I am just losing my sanity!!!!
Oh well, as long as there is no mysterious reason why the conditions would have vanished I feel reassured.
Thanks for all your help Gordon.
Hi Gordon
Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this.
Yes, the two sites were copied from the same original site. But they have been functioning fine for several weeks since the copy.
I am certain I didn't reset them from the Edit all Units page.
Oh well, maybe it will come clear at some stage how I did it!
Thanks so much for your help.
Deborah
Gordon, this is really horrible.
My pre and post conditions have been wiped again!
All the post conditions have re-set themselves to "Next Quiz" and all the pre conditions have re-set themselves to "Previous Quiz".
I have a slight clue this time. I had been playing around with different navigation methods, as I was when it happened at the weekend, and therefore setting the edit quizzes menu to "display". In each of the three cases when the conditions have been lost, when I entered the edit quizzes menu the menu was in "display" mode. When I re-set it to conditions, the conditions I had set weren't there.
I tried to test this out by setting a test Quizport to "Display", exiting and returning, but the conditions stuck in that case.
Also, though I set the menu to "Conditions" when I come back to it it is in "Display" mode. That never used to happen, I had my menu set to conditions all the time and it stayed that way.*
Also the URL in the compromised Quizport was weird:
http://www.strivney.co.il/mod/quizport/editquizzes.php without an identifying number. I don't know if that is relevant.
This is one of the Quizports in question.
http://www.strivney.co.il/mod/quizport/editquizzes.php?id=1405&tab=edit&sesskey=uutSSd4Gg4
I have a feeling these three Quizports have been corrupted in some way.
Gordon, when I copied a site a while ago the post and pre-conditions were preserved. Could you please suggest how I might go about resurrecting the conditions from the database? I have the same 3 Quizports, in English only on my www.strivney.com site. The conditions are all intact there. Is there a way I could copy them? I really don't feel like spending another 2 hours re-doing the conditions, especially if there is a risk they could be lost again.
Hope we can get to the bottom of this.
Deborah
*I just tried this several times - setting the menu to "Conditions" leaving and returning - and each time it is re-set to "Display" when I go back in. So that is defnitely incorrect behaviour right?
Please arrange for you site to be updated to the latest version of QuizPort as soon as possible.
To restore the conditions safely you need to restore the quizport_conditions table to the database. To do this, you will need:
Bear in mind that conditions for any QuizPort quizzes that you have created since the backup will be lost.
I suggest you do not restore the DB table yourself. Either let me do it, or ask you server administrator to do it.
But first, it is important that you update your QuizPort module.
thanks
Gordon
My Quizport version has been updated.
I have emailed you about trying to sort out my problem with the conditions.
Thanks.
Deborah
Hi Gordon,
About the PHPMyAdmin plugin, my host say they cannot install it.
They say:
" I can send you complete SQL dump which Gordon can see in his local development box (This will give him access to all data in your site). We cannot install phpMyAdmin."
Would this help?
Please advise if you have any further ideas which would make investigating this problem possible.
thanks.
Deborah
Hi Gordon
Key to School have sent me the sql files of my Quizport tables - one of my original files and two of their backups, for information. Would they be of any interest to you to throw light on the reason the conditions were lost?
Deborah
Hi Gordon
Key to School restored my Quizport conditions on the Strivney.co.il Moodle. They appeared nicely yesterday evening. This morning they have gone again. Everything is back to "Previous Quiz" and "Next Quiz". 
As before, each time I went into the Edit Quizzes page it was in "display" mode, which is not how I left it. This has happened to every Quizport on that site, including those I didn't touch yesterday.
My conditions on the strivney.com Moodle are still there, but I haven't been working on that site as I was on the other site.
The Quizport version was updated yesterday morning.
Please advise.
Thanks.
Deborah
Yes, I will do as you suggest.
And I will send you the db files by email.
Deborah
Hi Gordon!
I know you are away, but I wanted to let you know that the mystery of the missing conditions is solved.
Predictably, I have egg on my face, but I would like to warn all Quizporter/Task Chainers to beware of making the same mistake I did and causing untold angst.
It all started when I created some example Quizports on the Front Page for guests to try out.
Whey using "apply selected default values" the course name of Front Page quizzes doesn't appear in the "courses" dropdown menu so I left it as "all", thinking "all quizzes in this Quizport" and not realising that this would apply the default values to ALL my Quizports on the site. I expect more experienced Moodlers would realise that Course: All means just that - but it didn't occur to me that what I was doing in this Course woud affect my courses sitewide.
So there it is. I am just happy that I don't now have to open my Quizports dreading the loss of data.
I hope you are having a wonderful time. Sorry for the bother I caused.
Deborah
Hi Gordon!
Great news about the modification to include Front Page in the list of courses!!
Deborah
Hi Gordon
The conditions I put in place three days ago are still there.
I was wondering if you thought it might be possible that the conditions I had created with the Quizport version which had the missing script might have been compromised because of the missing script and that is why they were lost?
In any case I will wait before I put any more complicated conditions in place.
Deborah
Hi Gordon
Thanks for your reply.
I did set up the conditions using filters but not all the quizzes required 100% to move on - there were several different categories and some complicated re-directing to different quizzes in some cases. Also I have four different versions so it is about 4,000 quizzes in all. And possibly because of the size of the edit quiz page, the page is slow and cumbersome. So it did take me two hours. But I have decided to make the whole thing less complex now.
The conditions that were lost the second time were indeed lost from an updated version of Quizport but were created when the field was missing so I wondered if that might be responsible and that now I might be in the clear. But time will tell.....
Wishing you a successful and enjoyable presentation in Northern Japan.
Regards,
Deborah
Thinking about it, I am certain I did nothing on those Quizports between seeing the newly restored conditions yesterday evening, and discovering that they had disappeared this morning. So I am not sure the problem is connected to activity from my end.
I will, however, experiment to see if I can pinpoint exactly when they disappear.
Hi Gordon,
I did ask and they weren't keen on creating phpMyAdmin backups, but maybe I asked the wrong question - I didn't know about the plugin. So I will ask. Did you get the database files I sent?
Meanwhile I am testing but nothing to report yet.
Deborah