To give an example, students might be asked to create a presentation on a given subject. Their submission might be a description of the context of the presentation typed into the HTML editor together with one or two attachments. The presentation itself would be one attachment while some students might want to attach a sound track file as well to accompany their presentation. This is now possible with this version of workshop.
I've also gone though a lot of the options and worked out the various types of assignments available here (see the attached file). In doing this and testing quite of few, I've come to the conclusion that this version draws together the Workshop and Exercise modules. The Exercise module was useful to develop various ideas which have found their way now into the Workshop module. The Workshop module can now be used to run an Exercise-like assignment (Assignment type 2 in the attached file). The only difference in practise is that the students are asked to assess their work after they submit it rather than before submitting. Given the new feature of typing work directly into the on-line editor I think it's more sensible anyway to ask the students to do a "post-submission assessment". So I'm thinking of drawing a line in the sand with respect to the Exercise module. It's probably unlikely that I'll put in-line submissions into that module. I would prefer to use the Workshop module more extensively locally (in place of the Exercise module) and concentrate on getting that module more useable.
This is simply amazing! Thanks Ray!
On 15 September I made a post to this forum saying that in my teaching in the upcoming term I would like my students to be able to write their workshop assignment directly in the HTML editor. Immediately several Moodlers contributed to the discussion of user interface issues. 12 days later the feature is implemented in Moodle! And this is by no means the first time this kind of thing happened. I can not understand how some people can even consider to use a commercial VLE. It is virtually certain that I would not have received this kind of response from any of the commercial VLEs but would have had to drop my teaching plans and go back to doing traditional things.
I was wondering if teachers may use the html editor to make inline comments on the assignments submitted by the students. Such a feature would make me abandon the standard assignment module altogether myself. I need to be able to markup the work students submit.
Another feature it would be nice to see integrated would be an option like the one in the New Assignment module whereby students can see the assessed work of other students immediately after they submit their own work, or perhaps after their own work has been assessed. Such a feature would be very useful in self-paced courses with rolling enrollment and no fixed due dates and would give students a sense they were working together even if students are at different stages at the same time.
The second feature you mention is already there, switching on peer assessment shows a student other students' work.
I do agree that students shouldn't have the ability to mess with the files of others, but perhaps the comments made by the teacher could be in a different color from what the student used in their original document. I think we can trust teachers to do that, can't we?
In short, there are teachers who need to make in-line comments. If they aren't given an easy way to do it with the html editor, they will still do it via Microsoft Word, and waste a lot of time in the process. There's no way to stop in-line commenting, but it can be made easier for teachers to do.
The ability to make inline comments would be great (I'm a language teacher, too), but I agree with Ray that there should be a proper mark-up tool for that, rather than the richtext editor. Inline commenting has been mentioned here so often that I hope it will become reality, sooner or later.
However, I think the html editor already has a lot of the tools a teacher would want to use for inline comments. Like crossing out text. Like inserting things in different colors. The problem is, as you pointed out, versioning.
How about if the original submission made with the html editor were saved in its original version. A student might want to work on it over time, so they should have the ability to save it and come back to it later. Once they are happy with it, they can then click a button that would notify the teacher the text prepared in the html editor was ready for them to review. When the teacher goes to make inline comments, an exact copy of the original file is presented to them in the html editor, and when they save it with their comments, it is saved as a second, separate file from the original. The teacher could also be given the option to work on it over time, and to click a button to notify the student when they were completely finished with it. When the student logs back in, they are presented with the marked version, with a button that allows them to see their original submission if they so choose.
You know, perhaps Ray's integration of the html editor could be combined with code from the New Assignment module. That allows teachers to upload a second (or I think even multiple) "feedback" file in addition to the original submission by the student. Perhaps it could be modified so that instead of saving a file, it saves the content of the html editor in a similar way.
Now the current grading strategies are Accumulative, Error banded, Criterion and Rubric. This new one could be called In-line Comments, nothing like calling a spade a spade . How does that sound?
You are asking for the option of allowing the number of assesment elements to be zero and for the workshop to be ungraded. I think that should be OK (although the "ungraded" area of the workshop module is somewhat uncharted territory , I'm pretty sure at the moment an ungraded workshop tells the student they've got zero ).
I know this may seem strange to some, but this is actually how hieroglyphs are taught in the classroom. The teacher asks each student to go write their transliteration and translation on the chalkboard for a single sentence, and then critiques what they wrote before the entire class. What I want to do is for students to do all of the translations and transliterations and submit them first, and then gain access to at least a sampling of their fellow students' submissions with my in-line remarks.
The Allow In-line comments option would show the teacher (and the student) the on-line submission in the editor as opposed to just displaying the text. The text would be a copy stored in the assessment record (there's a text field called teacherscomment in that record which I think is just about obsolete in the latest versions). And it's actually less work to add a new option to the workshop module than it is to add a new grading strategy .
I have not utilized the "Workshop Module" that much. I really really like the Rubric in it for grading. Wish that form of grading could be attached to any activity. Hint Hint
Anyway, I think from reviewing the posts that there are many folks who remove the Workshop Mod because of memory problems. They may use the "Exercise Module" instead. I dunno! Would this affect you thinking about not supporting the Exercise Mod any more?
The memory problem with Workshop is an old issue now. The lib file was very large and it was split a little time ago now. Although I must say that in the later versions of the module it has grown again. Something to watch I think...