This problem has already been discussed in this discussion. As far as I can experiment on my 1.9.5 moodle installation, responses to questions which have been answered are indeed saved and count in the quiz scoring even if the student does not finish/submit before the time limit expires.
"If a student manages to cheat and spends more than 60 seconds over the allotted time then the quiz is automatically graded zero."
Students can work up to and beyond that point in any area where you've set a max, and all the scores will be recorded in the individual activities, but the aggregate will default back to the maximum. Here the "maximum" for a too-late quiz seems to be zero.
You can do the manual override, and it doesn't screw up anything, in my experience. I'm on 1.9.3, but I doubt if 1.9.4 would differ much.
Is there any mean of cheating about test time limit? My guess was no, because the reference time is of course taken from the server clock, but still wonder, because this problem still occurred today, and the student told me the time reported on the test was wrong.
Not sure this could be related to the problem, but I notice she used the "save and continue" button (I see the "quizz continue attempt" event in the logs).
Technically, yes a student can cheat on a timed quiz.
The quiz timer runs off the client machine (student's computer) so if she/he has access to the computer time she/he can essentially change it which would give more time on the timer. However, Moodle compensates for this by doing a check at the end of the exam, against the server time.
If the student's quiz time is over the time limit on the exam, the student is automatically graded zero.
With that said, the timer is also a bit "buggy". The quiz timer can change it's time simply by way of the student clicking on the back or forward button of the browser, and in some instances, a simple 'right click' on the quiz can pause the timer! (some versions of IE) So a student can in fact get graded zero, and not have cheated on purpose.
Hi Susan, I'm newbie in moodle. So do you mean that the quizzes time depends on student's clock? This is our problem right now, some faculties were claiming that quizzes for student has been expired before they take it due to incorrect time on workstation? I believe that it doesn't depends on workstation clock but rather on server's clock.please confirm.
If a quiz is set to close at a certain time, but no time limit is set, the following occurs:
- If a student begins an attempt on a quiz with less than 1 hour left before closing, the quiz attempt will progress with a countdown timer appearing showing how long is left before the quiz closes. If the student does not submit prior to the timer expiring, the quiz will save and submit all answers when the timer reaches zero.
- If a student begins an attempt with more than 1 hour left before closing, no timer appears. If the student goes beyond the scheduled time of closing, the quiz remains open, but, upon submission, a zero score is recorded.
This has proven a little problematic with our faculty and student body, as the assumption was that the quiz attempt would save and submit upon closing time, regardless. This may have been addressed in later versions or in this forum, and if so I apologize.
If you search this forum, you will find other threads on the subject. See also MDL-3030 and linked bugs.
Unfortunately, it is not a problem that I (or anyone else) has been able to address yet, so it is almost certainly the case that nothing will change in Moodle 2.0.
However, people at the OU (where I work) have been making noises about this, so there is a significant chance something might happen for Moodle 2.1.
Anyway, that sets the scene. Now, to address your specific point. I would like to amend your second bullet point:
* If as student begins a quiz attempt with more than 1 hour left, and never clicks save changes for over an hour ...
Now, what would you say to a student who was working on a Word document for over an hour, and who never one bothered to click save, and whose computer then crashed?
If you click save any time during the last hour of the quiz attempt (or navigate to another page on a multi-page quiz during that time) then the timer will appear, and so the quiz will be automatically submitted before the time expires.
Unfortunately, the argument we get is that "well, all these other programs save automatically now-adays, why not my quizzes?".
This, like so many of the problems we face at LSU (and I'm sure this is true elsewhere), becomes more of a training of expectations issue. We try to instruct the users on how things work within the bounds of Moodle, while giving them the ability to request changes, but instead, and this is only true for a small (but vocal) subsection of users, they try to use Moodle how they think it should work, and then complain when it doesn't do what they think it should.
Anyway, that's a whole other soapbox. Thanks for the reply Tim. If my dev team comes up with any brilliant ideas, we'll be sure to pass them along .