In particular, I just had to roll back: http://docs.moodle.org/en/index.php?title=Top_10_Moodle_Myths&diff=60678&oldid=58952
Who monitors this from the Moodlerooms end? In what context does this happen? What instructions are given to people who are set this task? Do they really have to pollute the talk page? And, if so, could they at least sign their entries properly?
Obviously as a volunteer, I am not getting paid to assist a Moodle Partner with their products and services. Somebody could make me an offer and my tune might change Ooops!
Try being a person who only make unimportant contributions to the docs ;). Makes one feel positively trollish-lol- doesn't it?
I think Moodleroom's assignments are a good initiative, and we should encourage all documentation contributions in the wiki way.
I'm sorry you don't like notes being added to talk pages. I don't have a problem with them myself. I agree that it would be nice if everyone signed their talk page comments, but there's a lot for new contributors to take in, and someone can always come along later and add an unsigned template (see MoodleDocs:Templates for details).
As for changing 'licence' to 'license', I've actually got used to spelling the word with an 's' the same as the GNU General Public License link in the footer of every page on moodle.org.
I don't know where the discussion about the spelling of licence came from. Wikipedia talks about "The noun license (licence in British spelling)", however I just checked my New Zealand driving licence and it's spelled licence.
I suspect it's gone the same way as enquiry / inquiry and affect / effect: misspelled for so long that in the end a dictionary or 2 decides either one can be used legitimately in the place of the other, at that point the battle is pretty much lost.
To me it's falling standards, but I'm middle-aged.
I agree that the general concept of what Moodle Rooms is doing is good. I said that above. I just think it would not hurt to discuss some of the details here. Hopefully someone from Moodlerooms will contribute to this thread.
And it is probably the case that I am only ranting about this to vent the stresses and irritations of having to pack everything up and clean my flat before moving out. Sorry everyone.
You are forgiven by all the trolls, users of any number of spell checker languages.
Contributions are good. I guess it is easy to do a search for Assignment 14 to get a progress report of who attempted it in Moodle.org. A page's history does list who contributed to a page, as does a lookup on a users contributions. And I would have thought a subject tag would be less intrusive, show up on those lookups and I would assume is useful to the teacher of teachers.
Must be I am already thinking of my week's vacation on the coast of Maine. Not as stressful as moving but certainly distracting
Ooops again. Wrong word, instead of "subject tag", I mean the "summary" box in edit mode in MoodleDocs. So on my user contributions link, everyone might see
05:43, July 29, 2009 (hist) (diff) Common module settings (→Common module settings are used in: Assignment 14 MoodleRooms) (top)
It is not out of hand, but we don't need this to get to the graffiti stage where it turns into an kind of tag/ad war between Moodle Partners, or for that matter others ("Assignment 42 CollmanLMSCourses" - that just happens to have a domain name). That is the potential slippery slope.
Frankly, I would like to see on their MoodleDoc user page who they are. "Hi, I am currently taking a MoodleRooms course XXX that I started on 7/28/09, I am a teacher at Franconia Elementary School."
I guess I'm partly to blame here.
I do some work for Moodlerooms and have been teaching a course on Moodle Administration. In that course, we do have an assignment relating to the Moodle documentation.
Students are instructed to "identify a page in the docs that either needs improvement or one that does not yet exist, but should, and post a link to the page or tell us about the page that should be created. " They are then instructed to update that page in the documentation. And to update the comments section to reflect the changes they made and to sign it.
If there is a way to sign their comments properly, just let me know what you think is proper and I would be happy to incorporate that into their assignment.
I am open to suggestions on how to contribute in a more acceptable manner!
I surely don't want them to be a nuisance, but I do want them to understand the importance of contributing back to the community and have them demonstrate their knowledge of how to do that.
In regard to frequency, as of right now, it appears there are 36 such edits over the period of about two and a half years. I'm not sure how that compares to the total number of edits over the same period, but I would guess that's a pretty small percent.
I'm attaching a frequency distribution of our posts.
Again, I'm willing to follow whatever guidelines the community feels appropriate.
Thanks for your guidance!
Thanks for explaining things.
I recommend that you encourage students to read the MoodleDocs:Guidelines for contributors, which includes a paragraph about page comments.
Please note that it's not normally necessary to add a comment explaining why a page has been updated. Perhaps you could reconsider this assignment requirement?
Thanks again for your initiative in encouraging Moodlers to contribute back to the community.
As Chris already mentioned above, adding a "Summary" explaining what the edit is all about would help a lot because those summaries show up on the watch list.
And signing a comment is merely the click of a button. That shouldn't be too difficult
I guess the ones that annoy me are the students who just seem to do a minimal amount to 'tick the box' of the course assignment. I don't think you are asking someone to copy-edit something. You want students to contribute something of substance, even if it is only a paragraph somewhere.
Do you review recent changes to see what your students have done?
I have to admit that this "bright idea" was originally mine. My thinking was that our students should understand that they can become not merely proficient Moodlers, but rather productive members of the Moodle community. Members who not only take, but also give.
Being a member of this community has been important and meaningful to me and I hope that many of our students will have the same experience.
And I think that contributing to the documentation is one of the best ways to contribute to the community.
I clearly did not think the assignment through as thoroughly as I should have, though, and I understand that it must be frustrating to have to deal with less-than-wonderful "contributions" made to the docs. I will be more careful about this sort of thing in the future.
For example, maybe students in a training course could vote for a page in the docs to improve and we could all collaborate on it together in a wiki or a forum before actually submitting the changes to the docs. That might be a better way to go, might it not?
Looking through Special:SpecialPages might give you some ideas for pages which might need work, e.g. Long Pages, Pages with the fewest revisions, Oldest pages, Wanted pages...
I would encourage to actually change the real docs. It is a wiki after all - so be bold