Well, I went ahead and upgraded our site from 1.8. to 1.9 and am now 'suffering the consequences' with the gradebook. It doesn't do some of the basic things that we need to do (or at least I can't figure it out) and it's complexity is going to force many, if not most, of our English teachers to throw their hands in the air and give up.
So, I'm wondering if it is possible to downgrade just the gradebook to the old version? I suspect it is impossible but figured it never hurts to ask.
"it doesn't do some of the basic things that we need to do..."
Here is one and although it is basic it is crucial that we be able to do it:
1. Create an offline assignment (using the common 1~100 or a custom scale)
2. Grade all the assignments (hand entry)
3. At a later date scale or curve the assignment (quizzes in our case) by adjusting the maximum score.
This seems like a very simple request to me but I cannot figure out how to perform this action in the new gradebook. Just one of a handful of reasons that the new gradebook is going to create a monumental headache for me via all the teachers that had just gotten used to the old gradebook.
Thanks. Yes, 1. and 2. are possible. I just wanted to explain the process as I had done it with the old gradebook. I should have pointed out where the gradebook limitation (the new one) is giving me troubles and that is at #3.
#3 was extremely easy with the pre 1.9 gradebook and is a very valuable feature for teachers who decide to scale or curve their scores at the end of the course based on the overall group performance. I can't figure out how I'm going to do curving with the new gradebook.....amongst quite a few other perplexities.
Thanks for the message.
Hidden items in 1.8 did not appear in the grade book. This was a big bonus. Now hidden items clog up your grade book unless you hide them in the grade book as well.
Then you have to unhide the item in the course and unhide it in the gradebook. Twice the work and clicking and complexity. My staff don't like it!!
This simple category weighting screen has also been lost. Vote now to get it back!
I will definitely vote for the second one here! The problem is that I can't even figure out how to adjust the weighting at all
We have a series of quizzes that we categorized as "quizzes" (original huh! ) and we curve them at the end of the semester based, more or less, on the highest total score achieved in the class.
Am I correct in reading the information in the Tracker request that I can curve the total score or does that just refer to the overall weighting of that category?
If it is just for the overall weighting, then that is not as much of a problem for me.
What I really need to be able to do is look at the category "quizzes" for example, and see what the point total for that category is at the end of the semester and adjust it based on the actual highest point total achieved by students. I was able to do this in the pre 1.9 gradebook and it is one of the "simple functions" I was referring to in the post at the top here.
**Edit** Upon further review, I see that the second Tracker request does, in fact, only deal with category weighting and not with curving of point totals for each category as I had hoped
Yes, thanks that is a good idea. I spent about five hours the day before yesterday together with another teacher at my school trying to make some sense of the new gradebook.....and did make a little progress.
I think we have managed to figure out how individual graded items can be curved and how categories can be curved as well. It is MUCH more convoluted than the old gradbook with seemingly no reason but I think we did at least figure it out.
The biggest problem now is going to be teaching our teachers how to use this version!!
Just a thought Jason, but if you posted some brief instructions or explanation about how to curve individual graded items and categories you could get useful feedback on how to streamline your solution to the issue and explain it to your teachers concisely and clearly.
I'm pretty sure you'd also help out a lot of people on this forum who are following the thread.
Thanks. Yes, actually I received a PM from another Moodler informing me that atw has created a DOC page where "Cases" can be created to explain how to perform certain desired tasks with the new grade book. I just finished contributing Case 2. (Here)
I will try to work on Case 3 or possibly just a few additional notes to Case 2 later today with explanation of how (I think) individual graded items can be curved.