Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
I don't know of any good integrations in Moodle, I sometimes just use Skype or IRC. But I have gotten rather good at using the Moodle chat:
* Open the chat in a separate tab - and never browse away from the base page, the one you called the chat from. This confuses Moodle.
* Keep the browser as large as possible so the nasty scroll-ups
are kept to a minimum.
* Discipline the people: no me-toos! No off-topic side discussions. Stay focussed on the topic.
* I type up the questions I want to ask before class - with a simple copy & paste I look like a champ at typing, and have everything spell-checked.
* I alway have the protocoll enabled so that people with browser problems can at least read what was discussed.
At least following links works, and the pictures are nice. Since we upgraded to 1.8.4 we have the problem of Moodle logging people out in the middle of working, so they type but are actually out of the chat...
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
If a standard messaging API is indeed operational in Moodle 2 then my guess is that Moodle Chat will die.....
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
I set up students with a jabber account on DH. This approach is not integrated into moodle and is at present manually intensive ( I am sure there is a way to bulk create jabber accounts, but I just have never taken the time to figure it out....), but it works well, works with virtually all IM clients, etc. In fact there may be a way to set jabber IDs via bulk user upload since there are table entries that could arguably be used for this that already exist
Another option is to set up a google domain, use the google domain to authenticate into Moodle and use google talk (though I don't know if google has staighten out the conference room issues they were having yet.)
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
marc-
I am interested in the last option you suggested... google domain and use google talk. I think i will give it a go. I'll let you know how it works.
-J
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
Hi,
You can always use third-party plugins with moodle. The best place to find them is http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?id=6009 just find the plugin of your choice, install it and enjoy. For a more refined and drilled-down query just click on http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&perpage=10&search=chat&sort=44&order=ASC&advanced=0&f_44=&f_45=&f_46=0&f_47=&f_48=&f_49=&f_51=&f_96=&f_97=&f_98=0&f_99=0&f_100=&f_101=&f_195=&f_213=&f_214=&f_215=&f_216=&u_fn=&u_ln=
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
It's slow. Very slow, which causes users to get confused and conversation is out of order and hard to follow.
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
I used to use the moodle.org chat regularly a couple of years ago and I did not experience performance problems.
Gmail chat is very nice in that it can be done via plain HTML (and of course Google has very nice chunky servers), but you would not get the control and centralised logging you would get from a system under your own control. And of course it would be nice if the system you used was integrated with everything else.
Jabber+Presence to replace Chat with Dreamhost jabber integration
However, my experiments suggest that there is no way moodle chat, even in daemon mode with lots of cpu time can compete with what we have come to expect out of IM. DH offers free jabber and as I mentioned, Jabber using DH is VERY snappy.
I create jabber classrooms and while we regularly experience issues with joining the confroom because of the various diffs in clients, it works well and provides transcripts, etc.
I have looked at MSG/WIldfire but that iincludes a complete messaging server and may be overkill when you already have free access to jabber as with DH
However, you might want to look at Jabber+Presence Server here:
http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&rid=1037
This is maintained by Eloy so it is likely you can get help with it and that it is relatively current ;=}
Unfortunately, I haven't gotten to this as it is a ways down on my todo list
Re: Jabber+Presence to replace Chat with Dreamhost jabber integration
Free access to jabber sounds like a very nice option, though there may still be an issue of integrating it with Moodle.
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
i see some web-chat server, that could be integraded with moodle
like dimdim, and 123flashchat
The 123flashchat i think thats be easy to integrade, for small chats groups could be a solution
Dimdim, i don´t know if is easy to integrade.
But all it´s a third party product, it´s be better if moodle offer a better support for that
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
To get performance from chat based on other technologies you will probably need the level of access required for the PHP/daemon approach so it might be worth looking more closely at that version of the Moodle chat. Plus it is already integrated with Moodle. By contrast those alternatives are external to Moodle.
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
Re: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
I am a newbie with one click Dream Host installation. My chatroom screen is blank and so I am going to use my main website chat room, which is the most awesome, simple and very lovely and cool chatroom I have seen. it is only $5.00. You wont believe how many amazing things people can do to their personal chat space. It is so lovely an environment and it has all the Admin prefs for setting up a very safe room(s).
http://www.tufat.com/s_flash_chat_chatroom.htm
Within Moodle, all you have to do is wherever you want your outside chat room to show up, simply Add a Resource of either composing a webpage or a link, and when you do, have it open its own screen so that when they are done chatting they are still with your Moodle.
I have mine set up so that the webpage is simply a nice looking graphic that links to the outside chatroom.
Ang: Moodle Chat is Horrible.. is there an alternative?!
Hello Julie, and others.
I am developing a commercial web-based chat system, and would like to make integration with Moodle.
The system is fast, stable, and works on almost any platform.
If you or someone else still have problems, you are welcome to contact me. You can off cause use my solution for free. More info and demo chat-room on http://www.basechat.com .
Best regards
Anders Both, Denmark.
anbo@basechat.com , tlf +4541411001