SchoolTool - any thoughts?

SchoolTool - any thoughts?

by Ian Usher -
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Has anyone had more than a passing look a SchoolTool?

It's been funded by Mark Shuttleworth (a link to this said "the idea of the greedy web is slowly and disorganisedly getting under way") and the blurb stateth...

SchoolTool will provide a robust and reliable means of managing [a] school or classroom, saving time on routine tasks like managing class rosters, tracking student attendance, assessment and demographic information, helping teachers coordinate their schedules and reserve resources like projectors and computer labs.  The system will be accessible through a web interface or specialized desktop applications.  SchoolTool's interface will be easily translated for use around the world and accessible to people with disabilites.
- from the SchoolTool vision

It seems as if it dovetails nicely with much of what Moodle is about - it places itself explicitly as a school administration system and not a learning management system. Possibly the major overlap with (currently) 'core' Moodle modules is the gradebook, but I'd guess that would be a school-wide one rather than a 'class' or 'course' based one.

I am (and I know many people in the UK schools are) interested in a concept of something which uses the strength of Moodle inside a larger, MLE-type framework. Anyone have any thoughts - positive, negative, strong or off-the-cuff?

It's in Python btw... mixed

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In reply to Ian Usher

Re: SchoolTool - any thoughts?

by Mike Churchward -
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Its in Python, because it use the Zope/Plone application platform. So it requires a  completely different technology than Moodle.

I also was just recently pointed to Open Admin for Schools. I haven't had a chance to look into it, but it promises:
  • It currently does the following things:

    1. Demographics - It stores student and family information that can be viewed and printed in a variety of ways.
    2. Attendance - Attendance can be entered either by secretaries in the school office or by teachers in the classroom. It features the ability to do different numbers of periods per day for elementary grades vs high school and middle years. This will allow elementary classes to have 2 classes per day (AM/PM) while higher grades can have attendance done on a per subject period basis. Attendance reports are integrated with report cards/progress reports. A variety of attendance reports are available. A variety of attendance entry methods are available for use by teachers and/or secretaries.
    3. Discipline - A simple discipline module to track student discipline events and track outcomes, etc. Behaviours may be categorized and statistical reports may be printed.
    4. Report Card System - a flexible reporting system with per subject objectives (up to 20), integrated attendance reporting, etc. All subjects may have unlimited length text comments. The new special needs modules has even more flexibility with per student objectives (up to 32 per subject) and reporting capability.
    5. IEP (Special Needs) Site that is integrated at the division level that allows special needs teachers to tailor individual student programs that can be viewed from each school's teacher site.
    6. Export/Import Modules - to allow students to easily transfer schools within divisions without re-entry of demographic information. Export of data to other programs. Export of data to Provincial authorities via an automated XML based transfer mechanism.
    7. Saskatchewan SDS support for direct XML transfers of student demographic, subject and enrollment marks to provincial authorities.
    8. Online Gradebook to allow teachers to enter marks and assessments onine from school or home. It can group and weight assessment items and post directly into the report card system.
    9. Parent Viewing scripts to allow parents to view attendance, gradebook(where allowed), and report card marks. This is easily integrated into existing school sites.
    10. Upcoming: Family functions, Parent-Teacher Interview Scheduling, Student Pictures
Might be worth a look.

mike
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Re: SchoolTool - any thoughts?

by Michael Penney -
Hi Mike, have you looked at Centre? I've pointed a few folks at it since it is php/postgresql based, but I haven't heard anything back.


It looks pretty feature rich:

Centre has been designed to address the most important needs of administrators, teachers, support staff, parents, students, and clerical personnel. However, it also adds many components not typically found in student information systems. Consider the following: Student screens that include all the critical information necessary for reports and decision-making can be accessed with a point and click. Any information important to your school or district can be collected with custom fields that can be setup by district administration. Students can be searched for based on custom information and reports can be run on students with certain custom information. Students can be searched by not only gender, ethnicity, grade level, etc., but also by their schedule, activities, absences, eligibility, grades, GPA, and class rank, where appropriate.
Centre has been designed to address the most important needs of administrators, teachers, support staff, parents, students, and clerical personnel. However, it also adds many components not typically found in student information systems. Consider the following: Student screens that include all the critical information necessary for reports and decision-making can be accessed with a point and click. Any information important to your school or district can be collected with custom fields that can be setup by district administration. Students can be searched for based on custom information and reports can be run on students with certain custom information. Students can be searched by not only gender, ethnicity, grade level, etc., but also by their schedule, activities, absences, eligibility, grades, GPA, and class rank, where appropriate.
Form letters can also be printed based on the same search criteria and custom fields. Additionally, mailing labels can be printed on the top of each letter. These mailing labels appear convieniently in the window of a windowed envelope when the letter is folded into thirds. Mailing labels can also be printed on any other printed reports such as report cards, schedules, and progress reports. Employee screens that not only provide quick access to demographic information, but also assign email addresses, admittance to the system, passwords, and more.
A comprehensive grade book that allows teachers to establish grade ranges, weight assignments, track assignments, and issue quarterly and semester grades as well as progress reports. Report card and transcripts are also available. Furthermore, report cards and transcripts can be configured to display grades for any or all of your schoolÌs marking periods Ò on the fly.
Attendance can be taken electronically by teachers and submitted to the office instantly. Also, office staff can modify attendance reports based on information not available at the time roll was taken. The attendance component further provides report capabilities to identify average daily attendance, to provide daily attendance summaries, and to track attendance each day.

Middle grade and high school educators will appreciate the eligibility feature of Centre. No longer will paper or spreadsheets have to be used to report what students are eligible for athletic or academic activities; instead, the grade book will determine electronically if a student is passing or not. The teacher then merely verifies the information and sends it through the system.
Scheduler in Centre allows the scheduling of entire classes or groups as well as the scheduling of a single student. Revisions to a studentÌs schedule can be performed quickly. Scheduling based on a studentÌs requests is extremely efficient. Running the scheduler on an entire high school takes minutes instead of hours. So, the scheduler can be run several times a day Ò allowing you to scheduler more thoroughly. Also, each time you save a studentÌs requests, the scheduler is run under test mode for the student Ò allowing you to resolve conflicts as you have the student in front of you.
Courses can be added easily to include weights, instructional assignments, and periods. As well, you can determine if each course requires attendance, affects the honor roll and class rank, and/or has any restrictions. Of course, scheduling reports can be generated through this application also.
A calendar is included that details events, activities and student assignments.
A school set-up screen is used to establish marking periods, the grade levels in the building, and the number of periods scheduled each day. School demographic information (e.g., name, address, phone numbers, etc.) is entered on this same screen. Your schools can have any number of marking periods in three tiers. For instance, a school could use the conventional two semesters, four quarters, four progress periods model, or a school could establish its only system of marking periods with 3 semesters, 18 quarters, and 36 progress periods. Everything is completely customizable.
Parents and students can login to view student demographic information, grades, attendance, assignment due dates, the school calendar, and other information.
You will find Centre to be a full-featured student information system that facilitates your decision-making, provides data necessary for reports to the federal or state governments as well as local boards, and affords convenient access to all of the stakeholders in your building or district. And, because it is web-based, the system can be logged into from any Internet connection.

Last Updated ( Tuesday, 28 December 2004 )

They have a bunch of screenshots there I didn't include:
http://www.miller-group.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=44


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Re: SchoolTool - any thoughts?

by Rodger Kuhn -

It's nice to hear a discussion about Student Management Systems. From what I have seen, both of these systems look like they have a lot of potentional for traditional schools. I have a question though, does anybody know of an open source SMS that can be used for a technical school? We don't run on class periods, we work like a small college.

Thanks a lot.

Rodger

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Re: SchoolTool - any thoughts?

by Miles Berry -
I've been following schooltool on and off for the past couple of years. Their vision for what they wnat to achieve is brilliant, but they've become rather bogged down in the calendaring/scheduling side of things, and whilst this aspect looks very good, I don't think there's been much progress on other aspects of school administration.
Centre looks interesting, but I think there may be more mileage in working up from a Moodle base rather than linking across to different products.
The commercial suppliers in the UK have, AFAICT, made the mistake of producing VLE products which 'talk to' their existing MISs, at little more than the import/export level. The time is ripe for a fully integrated solution, which can pull scheduling, resources, assessment and notes all together and give a clear overview of how a pupil's doing, and what the pupil's doing.