Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Joseph Rézeau -
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Hi all,

Using Moodle 2.0.1+ (Build: 20110209).

Further to this discussion in the Lesson forum I have either found out a serious bug in the Activities-Groupings feature in Moodle 2.0 or I am missing an obvious setting somewhere.

  1. At site level I have enabled Experimental settings : Enable group members only.
  2. At course level I have left all the Group settings at their default value
  3. In my course I have created
    • Grouping Birds:
      • Group Eagles student01
      • Group Sparrows: student02 student04
    • Grouping Jungle
      • Group Lions:student03
  4. In any one instance of these activities: Glossary, Lesson, Quiz, in the Common module settings Advanced, I select Grouping: Birds; Available for group members only.
  5. The Topic list of activities correctly shows e.g.:
    • my first quiz (Birds)
    • Lesson my first lesson (Birds)
    • Glossary New Course Glossary (Birds)
  6. I log out and log in as student01 (Group Eagles, Grouping Birds)...
  7. All the activities which I have set Available for Grouping Birds are not visible to student01. And they are not visible to students of any other Group/Grouping either!

I'd be grateful if those moodlers who are currently testing Moodle 2.0 would try to reproduce my scenario and either confirm the bug (so I can report it in the tracker) or point to an error in my procedure.

Joseph

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Mary Cooch -
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I have just tried this - and I can't replicate your issue - my students in the Birds grouping in the Sparrows group or Eagles group can see their work and those who are not in the Birds grouping cannot see it-but now I am wondering if I have gone wrong instead of you? I can't see anything in your settings different from me. The one thing I have not done is to use the actual student login (because I forgot the passwords) so I used the "log in as" facility, and that might behave differently. I will try again tomorrow.

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Joseph Rézeau -
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Hi Mary,

Which version of Moodle did you try to duplicate my issue on? I suspect the problem was introduced in a very recent version.

I'm having the problem with Moodle 2.0.1+ (Build: 20110209) and Moodle 2.0.1+ (Build: 20110217).

No problem with the "Christmas" version Moodle 2.0.1 (Build: 20101225).

Joseph

PS.- I cannot try out my scenario on http://qa.moodle.net/ because apparently Experimental settings : Enable group members only is not enabled and even when logged in as Manager one does not have access to that setting...

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Joseph Rézeau -
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Thanks to Helen I've been able to switch the Experimental settings : Enable group members only setting on http://qa.moodle.net/ and test out my scenario, which confirms the current bug in latest versions of Moodle 2.0.1+

I've filed a report in the tracker as MDL-26476.

Joseph

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Mary Cooch -
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Yes- it was the Christmas one, so you have obviously found a bug!smile Or should that be sad

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Orestes Mas -
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Also hit by this bug (drove me mad for an hour or so).

But very impressive fast response from the developers. I see the patch is already on the git repository!

Thanks.

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Joseph Rézeau -
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Fixed in moodle 2.0.2.

Joseph

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by James Bisset -

Hi

I'm experiencing a different version of this problem with our build (2.1.2 build 20111010).  I can publish an activity to a grouping (Separate Groups), but my test students in other groups can see the activity, so the Grouping isn't applying.  Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

James.

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by Mary Cooch -
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Can you outline the steps you have taken and what activity it is?

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Re: Moodle 2.0 Groupings for activities not working

by James Bisset -

It was an advanced uploading of files assignment.

I've since discovered an experimental development setting called "Enable Group Members Only".  This appears to be designed to prevent students in group B seeing an assignment published for Group A - and it works.

My understanding was that this was what Groupings were designed for, i.e. this should have happened anyway.  I'm not sure I understand why if I create an assignment for Group A, my group B students can see it...

So, I appear to have my solution, thanks to this experimental setting (which I'll have to hope becomes a permanent feature!)  But if anyone can clarify how the Grouping setting in assignment is designed to be used, I'd be grateful.

Thanks

James.

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